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Old 07-31-18, 12:05 AM   #1
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As all companies making computer things worse, they say the new chat of theirs that just has left beta is an "improvement". They could as well claim that pigs fly. I don't care, I don't mind. All I see is that now every time I boot the system I have this huge chat windows autmatically showing up on screen, and it must be manually shut down. Obtrusive to the max.


Tried Steam settings and community settings and siuch, but I cannot find any option anywhere how to switch it off or at least hiding it from booting on.


Anybody knowing how to do it?


They won themselves a formidable maelstrom with it, the reactions to it leave nothing to be desired.
Hi Skybird
Probe here Steam released solution..
https://steamcommunity.com/discussio...81957311943542
Read post of @Genthar

steam icon → friend → setting button on upper right in friend list → turn on memorize open chat.
Then close the friend list, it will not be displayed automatically next time.
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Old 07-31-18, 04:47 AM   #2
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Thanks, will try it when I am on the other machine.
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Old 07-31-18, 10:57 AM   #3
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I'm with Sky on this one. Jesus it's annoying now.

Sometimes I just launch a game immediately without thinking from Steam and halfway through a loading screen the steam chat pops up.

I thought it was just fine the way it was, but Valve now demands MORE information flow to our brains
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Old 07-31-18, 04:18 PM   #4
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My first (and last) experience with Steam is Microsoft Flight Simulator X. I like the game, but Steam is pretty much the only way to get a copy these days. After playing it for a few months I'm ready to give it up, just to get Steam off my computer.
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Old 07-31-18, 04:59 PM   #5
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^That bad...?


I once ticked like you, Steve, but that is thze past. I found myself missing too much i would have liked to try bout in titles and games. And I came to this math:


I have since lonmg to compare entertainment pric es to the costs of a movie ticket and two hours of entertainment there. Now, if I imagine that scenario that I mess up my Steam account or somebody else does, and I lose all stuff associated with it, I would check whether the costs per hour of getting properly entertained by a game title, and the price I once paid for it (usually I pay much less than I would have for a DVD in a shop), are matching well or badly the relation between hours and costs for a movie ticket.



You get the idea and could imagine the outcome.


If you are worried about your privacy, as far as I know SAteam is not as penetrant as Microsoft, Google, Facebook and the likes. And you could set up a dual boot on your rig: one for gaming only, and one for anything else. That way, you can leave steam bypassed and "off" as long as you do not need it.


Or you simply disable it from autoloading with Windows booting.


I do not like Steam either, the whole philospphy of comapnies behaving as if they were an integral part of my life. But I learned that there are reasons why I could tolerate this one actor. Certain others I will never tolerate. Microsoft for example gives new reasons every week to hate. Almost every day.



BTW, I still see FSX DVD boxes with both patches or addons or what it was in the shops. It seems they still get produced. But it seems there are issues under Windows 10. Dual boot may be the answer.
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Old 07-31-18, 08:53 PM   #6
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^That bad...?
Actually I would keep using it but they made the decision easier for me. I recently had a reformat and when I went to reload FSX it was gone! I'm still in the process of talking to Steam about it but it seems the outcome is going to be that I can't restore it to my PC. To make matters worse my Activation Key is also somehow missing. They said I need to talk to the the manufacturer about that, but in this case they are the manufacturer. If I get everything back, great. If not, I won't fight them. I'll just say goodbye and good riddance.

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And I came to this math:
I completely agree. The money spent is well worth it. I just want to own the game, not rent it with their kind permission.

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If you are worried about your privacy, as far as I know SAteam is not as penetrant as Microsoft, Google, Facebook and the likes. And you could set up a dual boot on your rig: one for gaming only, and one for anything else. That way, you can leave steam bypassed and "off" as long as you do not need it.
It's not the privacy so much as the feeling I get knowing the game producer is monitoring exactly how much I play the game. On my personal Steam Profile page they even tell me the number of hours I've played it.

I've been thinking of a dual-boot, more because I prefer Windows 8.1 for all my work, but Win 10 works better for gaming. In fact I was trying exactly that when Win 10, rather than accept the partition I assigned to it, took over the primary partition and installed itself there anyway. Before I can put Win 8.1 in the second partition I have to get a new DVD drive, as mine chose this week to die on me.

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But I learned that there are reasons why I could tolerate this one actor.
Same here. As I said, if they cooperate and restore it I'll continue to use them. It all hinges on that, at least for me.

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Certain others I will never tolerate. Microsoft for example gives new reasons every week to hate. Almost every day.
Again I agree, but I'm too old and too stupid/stubborn/lazy to go through all that trouble.

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It's true. With Steam I've had no Win 10 problems. On the other hand Prepar3d is a rewrite of the FSX engine and runs all the old aircraft models under a much-improved environment. The bad news there is that the latest version, v4, is 64-bit. It's even better, but won't run the older FSX planes. So I have to decide between v3, which keeps the old stuff at 32-bit, or v4, which is newer and better but loses the old stuff. I also have X-Plane 11, so my options aren't exactly limited.

But I've gone a bit far from a discussion about Steam's new interface. Sorry about that.
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Old 08-01-18, 05:40 AM   #7
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Did you use the original FSX as released by MS, or the Steam-version of it (I do not know whether they sell both versions at Steam)? The latter had some code redone to make it "Steam" and thus is not compatabile with all modules available for FSX anyway. Maybe the installation is affected by that, too. The original FSX had a limited number of activations, when they were all used up, one had to activate via telephone.


Different to what people seem to think, not everything is compatible with P3D which was modded or sold for FSX. One of my reasons why I sympathized with the idea of getting P3D, but decided against it. The other beign thta new versions of P3D threw away old version compatabilities, and that I once again end up hanging on a license deal which Lockheed could cancel any moment. For the new version of P3D, 3 and 4, commercial modules also had to be rewritten, for exmaple my beloved stuff by PMDG. FSX and PMDG are synonyms for me, the one without the other is pointless for me.


However, flying probbaly is behind me. XP11 just does nto do the trick for me, andI am fully engaged in Assetto Corsa (Competizione soon) these days, and Raceroom, and use not just the most toy-like controllers for it anymore, but more elaborated hardware.



Sometimes I miss the memory however. I had superdetailed airport sceneries for the major hubs in Europe, and getting a flight done right and well from planning and fuel calculation over boarding, taxing, taking off, curising, and then descending, approach, taxing, docking and deboarding, always gave me a sense of accomplishment and satisfaction, even more so in night or heavy weather conditions, which also was visually ery impressive. Some of my best computer game meories ever. Oh, and doing a discovery of Iceland's territory, often in fog and snow, in small planes, that was something worth to be remembered as well.


Good luck with your Steam conversation.
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But I've gone a bit far from a discussion about Steam's new interface. Sorry about that.
Quatsch. Happens to me all the time.
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Actually I would keep using it but they made the decision easier for me. I recently had a reformat and when I went to reload FSX it was gone! I'm still in the process of talking to Steam about it but it seems the outcome is going to be that I can't restore it to my PC. To make matters worse my Activation Key is also somehow missing. They said I need to talk to the the manufacturer about that, but in this case they are the manufacturer. If I get everything back, great. If not, I won't fight them. I'll just say goodbye and good riddance.
That's odd, your games should be linked to your Steam account after you've activated them.
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If you are worried about your privacy, as far as I know SAteam is not as penetrant as Microsoft, Google, Facebook and the likes. And you could set up a dual boot on your rig: one for gaming only, and one for anything else. That way, you can leave steam bypassed and "off" as long as you do not need it.


Or you simply disable it from autoloading with Windows booting.

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While I am one that prefers to purchase the game disk/CD/DVD, go home and install the game, and never touch the disk again...

Just a few thoughts:


"Offline Mode" is your friend.

I show about "3 Minutes" played for Fallout: New Vegas.
But I played FO:NV for 1 YEAR in "offline mode", before logging back in to update to the patched version (sometime in 2011).

I've played that game alone, for weeks at a time. With potentially MORE hours total, than SH3 and SH4 combined. Both were purchased about the same time.
(My SH3 was the SH2/3 combo, without the Starforce.)
I only get online to update, and/or get a new game.

Steam's Primary advantage *to -ME-* is:
Newer (CD/DVD based) games often required the disk to be in the drive in order to run.
This has resulted in the loss of many of my older games. Some from as far back as 1997/1998.
As a result, I'm not wearing out my disk.
(With WINE giving added benifits that I can cover if you want to know.)


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