New PC build

[Moonlight]

Update, after doing some boring research I've found out that win7 is not compatible with a 7th generation cpu, I've gone and ordered the exact same parts that are in my desktop PC so she won't have any reason to accuse me of foisting even more shoddy goods on to her.

ASUS LGA 1151 STRIX Z270E GAMING Intel Z270 ATX Motherboard - Black
In the manual it says that Win 7 is only available with a 6th generation cpu, apparently Intel has stopped supporting windows 7 using their 7th gen CPU's, hmmm that's that sorted then.

[Skybird]

Honestly said, building a new system on the premise to make Win7 running on it, is pointless by now. The situation with W7 has been systematically messed up by Microsoft like with W10.

If you do work and private stuff on the rig, or do shopping and banking on it, I would not run with W7 anymore, but then, I would also not run W10, but Linux.

I planned to do so myself last year, getting a new system and Win7 running on it, but then decided, after testing it and bogging down deeper and deeper into a stinking swamp named Microsoft policy, that it was not worth it any longer.

The latest patches and messups committed by Microsoft in the wake of Meltdown and Spectre 1 and Spectre 2, do not make it any better, and will not make it any better in the future (they only mitigate, btw, an attack - they do not close security holes, that is not possible via software and BIOS and firmware updates). Especially when using AMD processors. There have been so many patches by now and them braking more things than they did good, that nobody seems to know anythign for sure anymore, and the confusion is complete. Conidering that there still are no known exploits due from Meltdown and Spectre1+2 conducted, the aptches so far have done incrodbly much more damage, than the exploits they claim to adress.

If you are not gaming: get a cheap machine, get Linux Mint on it, and forget about it all. Windows is only needed for professional use of professional software, and gaming.

Be advised that currently even VM functionality of VMs under Linux is messed up, due to Kernel changes after Meltdown and Spectre. Its a mess, a mess a mess.

Also be advised that you cannot avoid the broken oatches by Microsoft endlessly, at some point they will be installed to your machine, even against your will and against your settings. Rcently, buld 1703 was pushed to 1709 on many machines even with users having set options to prevent that. Microsoft owns your hardware and does on it what it wants, they do not ask you anymore. And if what they do brakes your system - your problem. Many AMD users just learned this lesson once again in the past days.

Consider to invest just into a cheap, temporary solutions, and go for the main solution in two or three years. With new chips that do not suffer performance losses due to "patches".

[Cyborg322]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

Update, after doing some boring research I've found out that win7 is not compatible with a 7th generation cpu, I've gone and ordered the exact same parts that are in my desktop PC so she won't have any reason to accuse me of foisting even more shoddy goods on to her.

Hi Moonlight

This may be to much of a hassle for you but if you want to save a bit of cash you could do a free upgrade on your old system from W7 to W10

The GWX Upgrade Tool Control Panel ended in 2016 but the tools themselves still work and you would still end up with a Valid Digital License

You would need to be quick as MS are stopping that too, I'm not sure when

You could then clone the OS to your new PC ( there are a few ways of doing that ). I've not tried it myself but it should work in theory.

I'm assuming that having a ASUS LGA 1151 STRIX Z270E GAMING Intel Z270 ATX Motherboard you are using new build for Gaming. you don't mention a dedicated GPU in your list . What do you intend to use?

There are also other much cheaper options for your MB and still have a Z270 Chipset or even the new Z370 So called "Gaming" motherboards offer really poor bang per buck compared to other components. Unless you want flashing LEDs and slots for 4 GPUs
I personally think investing in decent GPU, PSU , RAM or to a lesser degree an SSD or Case Fans is a wise choice, Building a new system is all about spending your hard earned cash on right components at the right cost


Simon

[Moonlight]

2nd update.
There was a problem with the delivery of the parts I'd ordered and they wouldn't be here until next Tuesday, her indoors wasn't very pleased about that so she suggested that I order the original parts because she has win10 so it wouldn't be a problem.

The next sentence she came out with was can I have a new graphics card to go with these new parts I was getting her as well, me thinks I've been had for a mug, I'm beginning to think my sweet lady has been possessed by a mischievous imp, the parts will be here tomorrow.

An nvidia 970 gtx graphics card has been ordered for her, so I'm not the monster from the black lagoon anymore, its surprising how you can be a monster one moment and then become a sweet little angel the next when these bloody women get their way.

[Onkel Neal]

So, how did it all work out? Got it assembled and running?

[Cyborg322]

The GTX 970 has been superseded by the 1070 for quite a while now . It has a slightly higher spec . [ Some double the VRAM @ 8gb]

I'm surprised you can still get hold of 1 unless your buying used + old stock and may not be necessarily cheaper

There is also the possibility its a return . Are you ordering this described as new ?


Simon