Disgraceful verdict' in pier shooting

[Platapus]

Since I was not on the jury and did not have access to the evidence, I can't opine on the decision of the Jury.

With the illegal entry and the firearm possession charge, he will be spending some time in the poky and then will be deported.

The real problem is how to keep this guy from once again entering the US.

[August]

Originally Posted by Platapus

The real problem is how to keep this guy from once again entering the US.

What like a border wall?

Short of that we're never going to keep people like this guy out as long as he's being offered safe haven. The people that create these sanctuary city policies are the real murderers here.

[Buddahaid]

No, the people that let their firearms get stolen are at higher responsibility.

[aanker]

Yes, a border wall and crack down on the illegal sanctuary cities, county's & states.

Anyway, the DOJ filed charges in 2015 and has just announced that he will be picked up and face those Federal charges in a Texas court.... hopefully not in a TX sanctuary city... err county (just checked the list above).

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

No, the people that let their firearms get stolen are at higher responsibility.

When they're a professional and supposed to be trained to know better you betcha.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by August

The people that create these sanctuary city policies are the real murderers here.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The people that let their firearms get stolen are at higher responsibility.

I would say these items are at the top of the list.

[Buddahaid]

The point I'm trying to make is it could have been nearly anybody who found and accidentally discharged the weapon. Somebody's kid, a tourist, a homeless person, your mom, etc. Sanctuary city, or not, has little bearing on it save to act as political fodder.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

The point I'm trying to make is it could have been nearly anybody who found and accidentally discharged the weapon. Somebody's kid, a tourist, a homeless person, your mom, etc. Sanctuary city, or not, has little bearing on it save to act as political fodder.

Fully agreed. When you strip away all the political descriptives and grandstanding, you are left with pretty much what Buddahaid has stated. The prosecution had a very weak case for 1st degree murder, regardless of who was in possession of the firearm and the jury saw that; if you fail to prove and substantiate your case as a prosecutor, you will lose the verdict, pure and simple. What is an interesting note is the attorney defending is a Public Defender, a class of attorney very often maligned as being inadequate or, sometimes, even incompetent. The defendant didn't have a high-powered private lawyer or crusading ACLU-type counsel, just one of those 'second-rate' Public Defenders, the kind who often are the recipients of suits alleging inadequate defense by their clients. In this case, however, the Public Defender was more than up to the task:

http://www.statesman.com/news/man-ac...d1gg1pfe8WsWP/

Hardly the stumbling novice lawyer stereotype so often seen in movies and TV shows; wonder how many big name law firms are lining up to offer this guy a high-paying job...

Neal, take note: Gonzalez is a Texan...








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[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

No, the people that let their firearms get stolen are at higher responsibility.

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I would say these items are at the top of the list.

THE ABSOLUTE TOP OF THE LIST! A professional officer never lets his weapon be stolen under any circumstances. Neither by being incapacitated or by being assaulted by several antagonists seeking just the weapon; EXAMPLE: several Federal guards in Social Security offices have suffered this and it is always foreseeable and preventable...even if you have to handcuff the weapon to your wrist to prevent the theft which will create an unpardonable danger to the public you are sworn (or least morally obligated) to protect or at least not endanger by your careless misconduct. The privilege to bear arms for a living is an immense one either in open or concealed carry, and 'weapon retention' consideration is the back-half of that equation. The more so as an officer's assets are subject to civil lawsuit if injury results. I hold the BLM officer primarily responsible. One does not leave a handgun locked in a vehicle in SF.