UC3 Nautilus sunk - Peter Madsen charged with murder of journalist Kim Wall

[poakung]

This is so terrible sad for everbody involved

[Jimbuna]

Yes and arguably none more so than for that of the family and friends of Kim Wall.

[Rockin Robbins]

Nothing but a cool, calm collectedness is evident in any of the observable behavior of Peter Madsen. In fact that is what makes the accident theory untenable. People who unexpectedly and accidentally kill someone go well out of their way to panic, act somewhat overwhelmed and hysterically. They preserve the body. They quickly seek help. They are very emotional. They do not withhold information.

Peter Madsen's actions and behavior, using Occam's Razor, are those of a monster. NOBODY accidentally having a passenger die on their boat dismembers the body, tosses it overboard, seeks to deny that they were on the boat, mourns the loss of the boat in a controlled and logical way instead of the passenger who lost her life. It's amazing the outlandish excuses people will make for those clearly not innocent.

The only question is what can be proved and what cannot. And don't count on any help from Peter Madsen. He's in pure avoid the responsibility mode. Solving the mysteries would be his undoing, so he covers up. Those who are in the wrong avoid the light that it might reveal the evil of their actions. Those in the right seek the light to illuminate the fact that in spite of terrible events they did everything they could to do what is right.

[CaptBlanc]

I think you misunderstood me, Robbins.

Madsen is most certainly a monster!

What my point was, is that he's apparently the kind of sociopath that can, indeed, attempt to cover up an accidental death. Much like a hit-and-run driver who causes an automobile accident but flees to avoid responsibility.

Madsen, from what I can see, values his expensive hobby of subs and rockets more than the life of Kim Wall or the social responsiblility he owes because of her death.

His actions, especially those of dismembering the body, and his behavior of calm detachment alternating with depression over losing his sub, show that he has a massive defect of character.

If he were tried in the U.S. , he'd find out that due to his attempts to hide the incident from investigation, he's managed to turn what could have been a simple invouluntary manslaughter case into a felony with a life imprisonment penalty attached.

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by CaptBlanc

Madsen, from what I can see, values his expensive hobby of subs and rockets more than the life of Kim Wall or the social responsiblility he owes because of her death.

Well, the sponsors of his space adventure has withdrawn ther support, and the remaining members of his support group are gathering soon to discuss the closure of that group. Their individual support payment has allready stopped. So whenever PM is getting out, and one day it probably will happen, then he will get out to nothing. But this is purely speculation.

According to an article, several lawyers are wondering, why the lawyer of PM allows him to talk that much as he has done. The changing explanations of PM has made his case worse, and even if the remaining parts of the body of KW won't be found, the court may disregard the explanations of PM as unvoid, because he has changed them several times. At least, according to those lawyers. In Denmark, we had a case in 2000, when a murderer of 3 people were convicted, even though the bodies weren't found. And thus PM could be convicted too. The dismemberment of the body makes his explanations really suspicious. If he buried the body in one piece, then somebody else should have taken the dead body up from the sea, cut it out carefully, and then been dumping the pieces back to the sea. That explanation would be the only plausible explanation, but the problem for PM is that nobody can and will believe that explantion.

And this is the conclusion which made the sponsors withdraw their money from the support group for his space adventure.

[Reece]

If he buried the body in one piece, then somebody else should have taken the dead body up from the sea, cut it out carefully, and then been dumping the pieces back to the sea.

This would mean someone found the body then said to themselves "Oooh, I must cut up this body then dump it back in the sea". That was a thrill!!

[Carotio]

Originally Posted by Reece

This would mean someone found the body then said to themselves "Oooh, I must cut up this body then dump it back in the sea". That was a thrill!!

This is exactly the reason why the sponsors withdrew their support - it's unbelievable. Who the "jingle-bell jingle-bell jingle-bell jingle-bell" would do that? Nobody!

Anyway, I heard in radio today that PM has accepted to have his mental health examined by a psychologist, so the police doesn't have to force it upon him.