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Old 08-27-17, 09:46 AM   #1
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I've found a photography showing the aspect of La Vieille lighthouse during the 1930-1940s years.

And if it can help you, there are also drawings with precise measures.

http://mnesys-portail.archives-finis...he_grandpublic
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Old 08-27-17, 01:03 PM   #2
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Admiralty Charts of Scottish coasts, 1795-1963



http://maps.nls.uk/coasts/admiralty_charts_list.html

Browsing these gives an idea of chart symbols in use in 1940 on admiralty charts.

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Old 08-27-17, 02:26 PM   #3
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Admiralty Charts of Scottish coasts, 1795-1963

http://maps.nls.uk/coasts/admiralty_charts_list.html
What does the repeated black symbol mean ?

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Mooring buoys.
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Old 08-28-17, 04:20 PM   #5
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Good findings guys, thank you for sharing them you are amazing

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I've found a photography showing the aspect of La Vieille lighthouse during the 1930-1940s years.

And if it can help you, there are also drawings with precise measures.

http://mnesys-portail.archives-finis...he_grandpublic
Excellent view!

As far as I can see from it, the lighthouse hasn't changed much during the last 80 years. The elevator tower (the one destroyed in 2008) is hidden behind the main lighthouse building in the picture but you can see the Termperly crane it housed, to the right of the lighthouse. Apparently, also the concrete hut on the same side of the lighthouse was already there (it probably housed transporter's motor), and the balcony towards the top of the lighthouse is clearly visible. My only complaint is that the picture doesn't show if the concrete house currently covering half of the gallery, was there in the 40s. Probably yes, but in any case I will set all the structures above as configurable equipments, so it will be easy "switching" them on and off.

Did you happen to find similar pictures of the Tourelle de La Plate.
As I have said in the past, I am not totally sure that its original painting featured the black/yellow stripes it sports now...

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Admiralty Charts of Scottish coasts, 1795-1963



http://maps.nls.uk/coasts/admiralty_charts_list.html

Browsing these gives an idea of chart symbols in use in 1940 on admiralty charts.

Regards,

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I wish we had similar charts (and of that quality!) for other areas, including the West of France. In any case, chart symbols for buoyage, lighthouse and tower beacons (as La Plate), seem not to have changes much since then.
The problem with SHIII map icons, is that their resolution is too low and there is no way to increase. Asa consequence, making them to look smooth is not easy, and the more edges and thin lines they have, the worse they look. In any case I will do my best to draw a set of icons which resemble more closely the one seen on your maps

P.S: Work on La Plate "damage" models is finished. I am now importing the new meshes in game. Hopefully tomorrow there will be an update by me
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Old 08-29-17, 11:06 AM   #6
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Did you happen to find similar pictures of the Tourelle de La Plate. As I have said in the past, I am not totally sure that its original painting featured the black/yellow stripes it sports now...
You were right, the paint sheme of La Plate was different than today ...

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You were right, the paint sheme of La Plate was different than today ...
I had this feeling...

The picture is a bit blurred, but the light/dark gray area at the base of the tower is likely the unpainted base, the lower portion of it looking darker because of fouling and algae caking it; conversely, it seems that the tower and the tower-top metal platform might have been painted black, and/or a color which might have appeared black on a B/W film, i.e. red. My best guess for the WWII-era painting is either plain red (that would be compatible with a red lateral mark) or black/red (isolated danger mark). What do you think?

Please let me know if you find any better picture or a description of what La Plate's painting and illumination color/phase might have been during the 30-40's
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