Did the soviets have their own version of the MOSS?

[REDDQ]

Originally Posted by NoodDoon

A MOSS doesn't make the noise of a sub calmly searching. It makes the noise of a sub frantically trying to get out of a torpedo's range. Getting the AI to pop them at the right time to fool a torpedo is the hard bit, I'd imagine.

Well, game recognizes when torpedo has a lock on a submarine (yellow icon, "torpedo in the water" message), seems like a perfect time to fire something like MG-74 Korund.

[Aktungbby]

REDDQ! & NoodDoon! Might be too modern

[ikalugin]

Yes, Soviets had a MOSS equivalent.

A MOSS doesn't make the noise of a sub calmly searching. It makes the noise of a sub frantically trying to get out of a torpedo's range. Getting the AI to pop them at the right time to fool a torpedo is the hard bit, I'd imagine.

No, Soviet MOSS equivalents were commonly used for the ASW search evasion, while emulating "calmly searching submarine" signature amongst other things (ie the correct active sonar returns).

However, MOSS could not be introduced for the AI, as the player would see the AI launched MOSS (or equivalent) for what it is (ie a MOSS or equivalent) in the user interface.

[goldfish716]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

Yes, Soviets had a MOSS equivalent.
However, MOSS could not be introduced for the AI, as the player would see the AI launched MOSS (or equivalent) for what it is (ie a MOSS or equivalent) in the user interface.

Good point, however you could change the way the MOSS is displayed to the user. It could show as just another contact where it's identity could be revealed only with a sonar solution and/or sonar identification.

[Killerfish Games]

A Soviet version of the MOSS is implemented (in code).
When fired it causes the % SOL against the firing sub to drop significantly over time.

However we haven't gotten around to determining which Soviet subs field such decoys and also need to add a check to the AI in order to fire this as opposed to a regular torpedo.

[REDDQ]

Originally Posted by Killerfish Games

A Soviet version of the MOSS is implemented (in code).
When fired it causes the % SOL against the firing sub to drop significantly over time.

However we haven't gotten around to determining which Soviet subs field such decoys and also need to add a check to the AI in order to fire this as opposed to a regular torpedo.

Well, most modern ones would probably use ut ie. Kilo, Victor-II and III, Oscar, Typhoon, Sierra, Delta-III and IV, Alfa nad Akula if you decide to add it Essentially anything commissioned after 1970.

Russianships.info list Korunds for all of them (and even Charlies) but the simple truth is Soviets need them. Badly.

PS. Shame it cannot actually simulate another contact. It would be fun trying to determine who is just pretending and who is the real McCoy. Maybe something to consider for the future.

[Kazuaki Shimazaki II]

Originally Posted by REDDQ

PS. Shame it cannot actually simulate another contact. It would be fun trying to determine who is just pretending and who is the real McCoy. Maybe something to consider for the future.

I agree that would be the best long-term solution, and more accurately represents what the US operator will see.

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by REDDQ

Well, most modern ones would probably use ut ie. Kilo, Victor-II and III, Oscar, Typhoon, Sierra, Delta-III and IV, Alfa nad Akula if you decide to add it Essentially anything commissioned after 1970.

Russianships.info list Korunds for all of them (and even Charlies) but the simple truth is Soviets need them. Badly.

PS. Shame it cannot actually simulate another contact. It would be fun trying to determine who is just pretending and who is the real McCoy. Maybe something to consider for the future.

Some Akulas have additional six 533 mm torpedo tubes mounted externally, capable of launching 6 MG 74 Korund decoys. The external tubes are mounted outside the pressure hull in one row, above the torpedo tubes, and can only be reloaded in port or with the assistance of a submarine tender. Even the Typhoon class has an similar arc of six to twelve tubes outside the pressure hull to house the MG 74 Corundum (#15): <klik 2 enlarge)