Isn't the TMA a little too perfect?

[Steiger]

Blue circle really only matters with the Mk.14, and if the target is maneuvering then that precludes the use of Mk.14 anyhow.

[Shadriss]

You'd be amazed at how quickly and accurately a good Sonar division can provide a shooting solution without even using the fire control computer. Granted, we'd never shoot a straight-run torpedo on them. The point I make though is that even in real time, it's possible to be very accurate even when the contact is turning and shifting speeds... at least enough to accurately place a seeking weapon.

It's not too perfect at all - in fact my problem is the opposite. It's not accurate enough when your solution percentages go DOWN. We knew where he was a moment ago, and now the solution is 20 Kyds further out suddenly? Ships don't move like that, and the solutions should reflect that even when the accuracy plummets somewhat.

[PL_Harpoon]

Originally Posted by Shadriss

It's not too perfect at all - in fact my problem is the opposite. It's not accurate enough when your solution percentages go DOWN. We knew where he was a moment ago, and now the solution is 20 Kyds further out suddenly? Ships don't move like that, and the solutions should reflect that even when the accuracy plummets somewhat.

I agree with that. In my opinion the time to first firing solution is about right but if after having a 95% solution the target starts to move around you you may not have a proper course or speed but the range should be pretty accurate for a while.

You may get that feeling from playing Dangerous Waters, but the problem with TMA in that game is that you get bearing updates every 2 minutes (IIRC). A modern sub at flank speed can do a 360 turn in that time, so obviously plotting a new solution might be a bit hard. If somehow you could increase the frequency to a couple of seconds (as I suspect real firing computer can do) it would be much easier.

[Destex]

Originally Posted by Shadriss

It's not too perfect at all - in fact my problem is the opposite. It's not accurate enough when your solution percentages go DOWN. We knew where he was a moment ago, and now the solution is 20 Kyds further out suddenly? Ships don't move like that, and the solutions should reflect that even when the accuracy plummets somewhat.

Exactly. I'll also add that ownship maneuvering should accelerate the solution more than it is now. If you have a good bearing measurement to the target (and you do if you track it by any Sonar array), two legs and you should get a reasonable solution.

[shipkiller1]

Originally Posted by Shadriss

It's not too perfect at all - in fact my problem is the opposite. It's not accurate enough when your solution percentages go DOWN. We knew where he was a moment ago, and now the solution is 20 Kyds further out suddenly? Ships don't move like that, and the solutions should reflect that even when the accuracy plummets somewhat.

THIS ^

I just sent a private message to the devs on this...
Solution generation is NOT accurate enough.. but it does make for an interesting game...

[Shadriss]

Originally Posted by Destex

Exactly. I'll also add that ownship maneuvering should accelerate the solution more than it is now. If you have a good bearing measurement to the target (and you do if you track it by any Sonar array), two legs and you should get a reasonable solution.

Truth. Though depending on the exact geometry and range, not always a given.

Originally Posted by shipkiller1

THIS ^

I just sent a private message to the devs on this...
Solution generation is NOT accurate enough.. but it does make for an interesting game...

Thought that might resonate with you, Senior.

Approach Officer : "Skipper! She TURNED! Her range just went from 8 Kyds to 30 Kyds!"

CO: "You are disqualified for life. Somebody get me someone competent up here please?"

Can't argue about the interesting game aspect though... I have to wonder how much of what they did was for 'gameplay' purposes, and how much because they didn't or don't understand how it works at the basic levels?

[Capt Jack Harkness]

I wouldn't say it was for gameplay reasons or a lack of understanding necessarily. Could be it was the quickest way to code it.

[PL_Harpoon]

Originally Posted by Capt Jack Harkness

I wouldn't say it was for gameplay reasons or a lack of understanding necessarily. Could be it was the quickest way to code it.

You could be right.
Thankfully there's a quick fix for that.
When you loose SOL on a contact that had a good solution the new range can't be further from the previous one than distance that target could travel.

[Capt Jack Harkness]

Sure. It adds another layer but shouldn't be a big deal, the game is so light on hardware as it is.