Strike on North Korea

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

I think Russia is still at war with Japan.

Good point. So why don't you eventually make a treaty? Does Japan still want Sachalin?

But then Japan is not a dictatorship, demanding absolute obedience and killing its own people for the slightest critique of the government. I have always wondered how the communism of the time could ever accept a state like North Korea as having anything to do with "communism"? Ah, Stalin.. if you call a one-man-dictatorship "communism" it makes "sense", ok. in astrict sense, the "Soviet" Union never had anything to do with communism.


*edit: ok it is about the Kurils, sorry. And a treaty ending the war has been signed between Russia, and Japan in 1956. Seems there are current talks about the islands in qustion, Putin will travel to Japan in december 2017, to talk about that once more.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Catfish

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*edit: ok it is about the Kurils, sorry. And a treaty ending the war has been signed between Russia, and Japan in 1956. Seems there are current talks about the islands in qustion, Putin will travel to Japan in december 2017, to talk about that once more.

Probably go something like this:

Putin: "So, Prime Minister Abe, you want to discuss the islands? Say, you wouldn't happen to be up for election, soon, would you?..."...




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[vienna]

NK's Kim seems a bit uneasy, of late:

North Korea Leader Kim Jong Un Fears 'Decapitation' by Squad of U.S. Navy Seals --

http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-...es-navy-627863

The original SK Korea Herald article:

Kim Jong-un nervous about assassination: NIS --

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20170615000944


Usually when you hear about some despot taking measures like sleeping in different places each night, never using the same car twice, etc., they are usually not long for this world...




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Tehehe, who knows maybe Dennis Rodman isn't the despicable crapbird after all who voluntarily calls Kim a "friend", but is in fact a sleeper, a CIA assassin waiting to strike?

[vienna]

Somebody please put that idea in Kim's head; the idea of not getting Rodman back is so very appealing...




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Originally Posted by vienna

Somebody please put that idea in Kim's head; the idea of not getting Rodman back is so very appealing...




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Frankly, I thought how funny it would be if Kim reads my post (sure he's a member here, I mean come on) and gets paranoid about it.

Time for laser sharks?
Laser sharks!

"An nao Mistel Lodminn... you die!!"

[Jimbuna]

I don't envisage any military strike against NK unless China gives 'tacit permission' in advance.

However, perhaps one should always expect the unexpected from the current POTUS.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by vienna

Somebody please put that idea in Kim's head; the idea of not getting Rodman back is so very appealing...




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[ikalugin]

But then Japan is not a dictatorship, demanding absolute obedience and killing its own people for the slightest critique of the government. I have always wondered how the communism of the time could ever accept a state like North Korea as having anything to do with "communism"? Ah, Stalin.. if you call a one-man-dictatorship "communism" it makes "sense", ok. in astrict sense, the "Soviet" Union never had anything to do with communism.

Asians are strange and exotic beings, Chinese built what they call communism without socialism (ie pensions).

And yes, Soviet claim was that we were building communism via advanced socialism.

*edit: ok it is about the Kurils, sorry. And a treaty ending the war has been signed between Russia, and Japan in 1956. Seems there are current talks about the islands in qustion, Putin will travel to Japan in december 2017, to talk about that once more.

I think the way it worked is that the resolving treaty framework was indeed set up, but Japanese denounced it in the 60s (with the US backing) in the sense that they wanted the Kurills back that they have ceded earlier. We ofc had none of that nonsense and we still wont transfer soverenity over.

Ever since Japanese were playing "northern territories" card in the internal policy, while having a decent relationship with Russia (fishing problems non withstanding).
Current efforts appear to be focused on actually reaching some sort of enduring compromise regarding Kurills, as abandoning them is a political suicide for both sides.

[mapuc]

I follow some pages(or what you call them in English) on FB.

By reading some of what they write on their wall, I start to get a picture, which is a picture of huge or somehow huge naval forces not so from the Korean peninsula/Japan.

Markus

[Platapus]

Between 700 and 1,000 US citizens visit North Korea every year. Practically all of them don't end up breaking NK laws, don't end up being arrested, and don't end up in NK prisons.

I still think it is stupid to visit that country, but evidently almost all Americans who do visit NK come back safely.

[Reece]

Yeh but in what state of mind?

[Platapus]

So Let's take the lower number as the average. In the past 10 years, 7,000 times have Americans visited NK. Can't accurately say that 7,000 Americans visited NK as some of them are repeat visitors.

During the last 10 years, according to the State Department, 16 American citizens have been arrested in NK.

0.2 percent of Americans get in to trouble visiting NK
99.8% don't

I think those are better odds than you can get visiting Baltimore!!! Except in Baltimore, the police just shoot you.

I still think it is stupid for an American to visit NK, but evidently, the odds are good, if you behave yourself.

I was surprised at how many Americans visit NK each year.

However, that's not the "lottery" I would like to "win"

[Jimbuna]

North Korea missile test: Hwasong-14 hailed as ICBM

North Korea says it has successfully tested its first "intercontinental ballistic missile" (ICBM).
A state television announcement said the missile, which landed in the Sea of Japan on Tuesday, could hit targets anywhere in the world.
But the US and Russia said the missile had a medium range and presented no threat to either country.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-40491138

Either way, long or short range, something must be done about this sooner or later.

[eddie]

I agree Jim, but what could we do so that South Korea wouldn't end up looking like Iraq? We couldn't stop everything North Korea would throw at South Korea, would be a bloody mess, with a lot of South Korean cities looking like Mosul, sadly.