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Old 07-02-17, 03:43 PM   #1
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nothing major, think about it, the defense department & the Government already have these types of restrictions in place and always have, somebody is looking to drive their agenda in a certain direction.
The digital economy is a major workhors ein the American economy, amnd world market leader. If it sees its products boycotted by the rest of the world, the falkout for the US would be horrendous. Google, Apple, Microsoft can pack their bags and go when their only remaining market would be the US market.

Its as if Germany sees selling cars outside Germany boycotted by the world's other states. German economy would collapse, and the social wellfare state as well.

Kaspersky himself passed some KGB university in his younger years. He claims to have no ties to the Russian state services - but what else do you expect him to say? Why should he behave different from US software producers who must obey US laws demanding them to follow orders by the NSA and other state authorities regarding their software and possible wanted breaches, backdoors and hidden vulnerabilities?

Using Russian software in vital sectors of your state, is not clever. Using Chinese chips and hardware made in China isn't clever either. Using American servers and software in your state's amdinsitration and military again is a stupid idea. There are altrnatives for office software. Several German cities prove this since over one decade. They do better and cheaper this way. And Microsoft lobbies hard to recapture this lost territory and make them pay hundreds of millions in licence fees again for claimed superior Microsoft services. Only bribed politicians tend to believe them, however. And in Paris, the police since many years ignores demands by the French interior ministry that the police should switch back its infrastructure to Windows - the Paris officers in their free time (!!) switched the whole system to Linux years ago, and see that ot performs so much better in all regards, that they turned stubborn and decided to so far not comply with the interior ministry's order. Chapeau, Messieurs! Keine Macht den Doofen und den Korrupten!

Life without Windows and Android is possible. And its a better, and less depending life.
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Old 07-02-17, 05:28 PM   #2
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The digital economy is a major workhors ein the American economy, amnd world market leader. If it sees its products boycotted by the rest of the world, the falkout for the US would be horrendous. Google, Apple, Microsoft can pack their bags and go when their only remaining market would be the US market.
I think you misconstrued my post. I was just pointing out that this is an insignificant story. The U.S Gov has always had restrictions in place as to what hardware/software is allowed to be connected in her critical infrastructure systems, and if you are concerned about the Russians creating mischief, then you don't make it easier by using Russian software (or hardware for that matter).

Your welcome to try and boycott those three companies, but it will be a long time before you see any significant results, between them, those three companies own 90-95 % of the world market share in operating systems.
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In Worrisome Move, Kaspersky Agrees to Turn Over Source Code to US Government --

http://gizmodo.com/in-worrisome-move...rce-1796587120




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He must really really want that government contract. IMO Kaspersky can take his source code and pack sand.
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...or Putin must really really really want him to get that government contract...




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Documents appear to offer fresh evidence Russia's Kaspersky is tied to spy agency:

How close is Russian cyber firm to Russia’s spies? --

http://amp.mcclatchydc.com/news/nati...159342694.html




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