Suggest a Subsim for me

Originally Posted by Jonatron5

Im mainly looking for realism and being able to walk around the interior of the sub and take control of all the different stations.

Mh, that creates a problem.
While you can walk around in SH5, it is one of the least realistic 'simulations' available.

Originally Posted by Jonatron5

and I would LOVE a game with co-op multiplayer that allows real people to work together on the same sub

AFAIK, the only game offering that is Dangerous Waters, where you can indeed man different stations with multiple people on the same platform.
I imagine this could be great fun potentially, but never really did it despite a few tests. On top, DW isn't very much alive anymore, but still has a tiny, cozy core community.

Originally Posted by Jonatron5

I have heard Silent hunter 3 is like the gold standard of sub simulation (even if its very dated by now)

Depends on how you look at it. Personally, I consider Aces of the Deep to be said gold standard, even though it is heavily outdated, it offers 'more' for me than I'll ever find in SH3. But that's totally up to you and what you consider important.

Originally Posted by Jonatron5

I have heard as well, that Silent hunter 5 is good but you have to mod the hell out of it to make it playable.

Well said: Playable. Enjoyable?
Not for me - but others seem to enjoy it despite all the glitches, bugs, historical inaccuracies and overall arcade gameplay.

Originally Posted by Jonatron5

and a lot of the articles ive found relating to subsimming are fairly dated,

so for what im interested in what would be a good game? as of 2017?

All very relative, of course, but for me it would be

Aces of the Deep
Silent Hunter III (with a solid modset, of course, but I'm not at all up to date here)

And for modern stuff:
Dangerous Waters (pretty much the only choice anyways)

[Delgard]

Hey! Dangerous Waters are where real Captains sail.

[Wildcat]

Dangerous Waters still has a small following of people playing it. Finding drop in multiplayer games might be difficult these days but if you join a group of regulars you'll probably find a game happens at a set time each week.

A lot of people seem to favor SH3 for uboat operations, and I personally still like the original SH1 for American subs. I can even get it running on my ipad with a kludged together dospad app.

Never tried SH4 so can't say much about it - is it any good?

I did try SH5 and thought that it sucked, to be honest. Tried modding it to make it better but ended up wasting more than 5 hours finding all the mods, then the mods broke it so I deleted it from my HD.

[Giesemaschine]

Aces of the Deep
Silent Hunter: Commander's Edition
Silent Hunter 3 (and then install the GWX mod when you've played vanilla for a while.)

Also - Jane's 688i for modern-day action!

Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Depends on how you look at it. Personally, I consider Aces of the Deep to be said gold standard, even though it is heavily outdated, it offers 'more' for me than I'll ever find in SH3. But that's totally up to you and what you consider important.

Gleich und Gleich gesellt sich gern! Aces will always be my go-to for U-boot action.

I'm also surprised no one mentioned "Wolfpack"? Maybe because it isn't out yet, but it promises what you are looking for. It's multiplayer-focused (crew of 4 I believe), you can walk around the Sub like in an FPS, and each player is responsible for a station (mechanic works the engine/ballast control, sonarman works the hydrophones/radar, radioman deciphers encrypted messages, captain gives orders/plans attacks/etc.)

http://www.wolfpackgame.com/

Another modern one: Fast Attack
So far I only read about it, but ordered a CD via Amazon and can't wait for it to arrive.
AFAIK, the lead developer was a former 688 skipper and that shows in the game footage. In many areas it is way deeper and more authentic than for example Dangerous Waters, or let alone 688i Hunter/Killer.
In Fast attack you need to actually mind comms windows to catch messages by satellite etc., very cool feature.
TASMs don't work reliably against fast moving targets, as targeting takes a while.
TLAM strikes also need data from satellites, and recon sats also play a role.
Nothing of that you can find in other modern sub sims, unfortunately.

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim Jonatron5.

The world around these parts really is your oyster, I'd be trying a few of the super mods and then deciding which one I preferred.