Manchester Arena 'explosion'

mapuc · 05-23-17, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I agree. You did catch the sarcasm about "the most important thing" in my post before yours, didn't you?

Guilty as charged.

Markus

Skybird · 05-23-17, 05:28 PM

I just say I am shocked. Are you two against peace in our time, multiculturalism and tolerance for hypersensitive Muslim sentiments ? Mind you, most victims of Islamic terrorism are Muslims, and the terrorists are just Muslimis, not Muslims. Islam means peace. And the crusades, do not forget the crusades. And the Cordoba caliphate. And hallal pizza. Where would we be without ahlal pizza? Sorry, it seems I had to much of some diabloic alohol. Alohol has nothing to do with it, and Isalaham has nothing to do with it. Its all the same. Prost.

propbeanie · 05-23-17, 06:28 PM

The ~Crusades~ are the reason for this?...

05-23-17, 06:56 PM

People, activate your sarcasm radars.

Skybird · 05-23-17, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by propbeanie

The ~Crusades~ are the reason for this?...

Yeah, sure. Its allways all our fault, you see. And Napoleon in Eypt. And the big Woodstock at Tour and Poitiers. The denial of Vienna. Its all our fault, I tell ya. I mean, what the heck where people thinking when offending Muhammad all the time? We, our people back then should have just converted, and not resisting to the conquest and destruction of our culture. Look at India. They did like I recommend, had millions and millions mowed down, their primitive culture almost replaced with modern Islam , and that is why today there is Pakistan and the adventure theme park in Kashmir and nuclear weapons and pathfinder holiday camps for the boys who want to play The Lord of the Flies. Is liking all this really too much asked for? Kneel down, stick your rear end high into the sky and we all could live peacefully together again immediately.

Bubblehead1980 · 05-23-17, 08:36 PM

Years or irresponsible immigration policies have allowed much of Europe to be infiltrated by the ideology of savages. SAD SAD SAD

Von Due · 05-23-17, 09:32 PM

The way we are pretending this
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...strategy-trump
or this
https://newrepublic.com/article/1153...know-so-little
plays absolutely no part in it, and throwing a hissing fit every time it's pointed out that it does indeed happen, and throwing a tantrum every time its pointed out that this is a recipe for extremism, is not lost on the rest of the world. Just saying.

When the choice is cheap oil, cheap gas for your car, cheap food, cheap clothes and sneakers and terrorist attacks

OR

more expensive oil, more expensive gas, food, clothes and sneakers, and fewer terrorist attacks,

do you think our Govts are going for the latter? How much are we willing to pay? Won't happen and not much but we are told to dream on, we can have the best of both worlds and nothing bad will happen. It's a dream of convenience and entitlement.

As for the attacks now, they are as horrifying as they always are, no matter where and how.

Catfish · 05-24-17, 01:23 AM

^ Wait you don't say that we The West is somehow responsible for middle-east terrorism? England and the US never intervened in Persia, Iraq or Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan etc., and all those drones are flying humanitarian missons

Funny how just of all those military heads or politicians who always quote (mostly wrong) that "he who forgets the past is condemned to repeat it" never mention what their nation and military did before, in regions of the world they had no real legal right to be. Oil and gas, ore resources, weapon deals, and political influence against the "commies" anyone.

No i am not of the opinion that this justifies the killing of innocent people here or anywhere for whatever justification (religious or political), but it may be part of an explanation. Our meddling over there helped breed those terrorists, and the drone attacks killing more innocent people (including children) than criminals now give them the perfect pretense of retaliation.
BS of course, but we should know how easily minds can be manipulated.

The question is, what can we do about that?
If anyone here would be willing to reach out a hand, he's a traitor or a commie. Or he may be plain out rejected, even if he means it. Centuries of treason and military violence cannot be so easily be wiped out with a smile and an outstretched hand, with weapon lobbyists smiling in the background.
Even if someone here would really support such a policy for education and good long-term relationship it would take decades to see any improvement. Not that there is anything like that in the making, or thinking. Obama tried, but he failed, because of those pregone centuries of his own and other western nation's politics.

So, what next? Show strength? More drones? Will that help?

05-23-17, 05:28 PM	#2
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,702 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I just say I am shocked. Are you two against peace in our time, multiculturalism and tolerance for hypersensitive Muslim sentiments ? Mind you, most victims of Islamic terrorism are Muslims, and the terrorists are just Muslimis, not Muslims. Islam means peace. And the crusades, do not forget the crusades. And the Cordoba caliphate. And hallal pizza. Where would we be without ahlal pizza? Sorry, it seems I had to much of some diabloic alohol. Alohol has nothing to do with it, and Isalaham has nothing to do with it. Its all the same. Prost. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

05-23-17, 06:28 PM	#3
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,109 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	The ~Crusades~ are the reason for this?... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

05-24-17, 01:23 AM	#8
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,799 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Wait you don't say that we The West is somehow responsible for middle-east terrorism? England and the US never intervened in Persia, Iraq or Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan etc., and all those drones are flying humanitarian missons Funny how just of all those military heads or politicians who always quote (mostly wrong) that "he who forgets the past is condemned to repeat it" never mention what their nation and military did before, in regions of the world they had no real legal right to be. Oil and gas, ore resources, weapon deals, and political influence against the "commies" anyone. No i am not of the opinion that this justifies the killing of innocent people here or anywhere for whatever justification (religious or political), but it may be part of an explanation. Our meddling over there helped breed those terrorists, and the drone attacks killing more innocent people (including children) than criminals now give them the perfect pretense of retaliation. BS of course, but we should know how easily minds can be manipulated. The question is, what can we do about that? If anyone here would be willing to reach out a hand, he's a traitor or a commie. Or he may be plain out rejected, even if he means it. Centuries of treason and military violence cannot be so easily be wiped out with a smile and an outstretched hand, with weapon lobbyists smiling in the background. Even if someone here would really support such a policy for education and good long-term relationship it would take decades to see any improvement. Not that there is anything like that in the making, or thinking. Obama tried, but he failed, because of those pregone centuries of his own and other western nation's politics. So, what next? Show strength? More drones? Will that help? __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 05-24-17 at 01:44 AM.*

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05-23-17, 06:56 PM	#4
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	People, activate your sarcasm radars.

05-23-17, 08:36 PM	#6
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,134 Downloads: 606 Uploads: 44	Years or irresponsible immigration policies have allowed much of Europe to be infiltrated by the ideology of savages. SAD SAD SAD

05-23-17, 09:32 PM	#7
Von Due Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 1,690 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	The way we are pretending this https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...strategy-trump or this https://newrepublic.com/article/1153...know-so-little plays absolutely no part in it, and throwing a hissing fit every time it's pointed out that it does indeed happen, and throwing a tantrum every time its pointed out that this is a recipe for extremism, is not lost on the rest of the world. Just saying. When the choice is cheap oil, cheap gas for your car, cheap food, cheap clothes and sneakers and terrorist attacks OR more expensive oil, more expensive gas, food, clothes and sneakers, and fewer terrorist attacks, do you think our Govts are going for the latter? How much are we willing to pay? Won't happen and not much but we are told to dream on, we can have the best of both worlds and nothing bad will happen. It's a dream of convenience and entitlement. As for the attacks now, they are as horrifying as they always are, no matter where and how.