Release Date Pushed back again

Julhelm · 04-03-17, 03:35 AM

Well, we at Killerfish are consistently too optimistic on release dates. The reality is that development always takes longer than anticipated and especially if you have a small team that cannot afford to release a subpar product.

If you look at Uboot, the scope of their game has clearly grown by orders of magnitude since the initial kickstarter.

I also don't think anyone seriously tries to pull a 'bait and switch' - that is almost always the result of ambition being greater than the means to pull it off. STALKER was a good example of this.

burki · 04-03-17, 05:08 PM

Not really doing a bait and switch, but I really wish they would let backers and donors have access to it soon. We were suppose to have access to it in January. They've pushed it back maybe because of the board game, which is a bad idea I think. Really hope those who backed the game have access to it soon. Tired of the pushbacks.

Onkel Neal · 04-03-17, 07:45 PM

I always give the developers the benefit of the doubt. They will do their best.

qiaoyech · 04-03-17, 11:35 PM

I agree with Julhelm. The chance that a small developer team would delay release to con players is much smaller than bigger titles.

The only way they would take the same pay for more work is when they want to build a nice reputation. Now if they start to offer day-0 DLCs and cosmetics then I'd start to be skeptical. Until they, I cheer for the devs for trying hard to make it a superior release.

CCIP · 04-05-17, 01:10 PM

No matter what a publisher/developer says about a release date, you must always read it as "when it's done"

Frankly, I'm always more worried when the release date stays too firm, because things rarely go according to plan - and vice versa, delays aren't necessarily a bad thing.

In fact, if Silent Hunter III wasn't delayed by nearly a year (in order to add a dynamic campaign), I'd bet most of us wouldn't even be here on Subsim today

Onkel Neal · 04-05-17, 02:29 PM

Very true. We'll just have to be patient.

CCIP · 04-05-17, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Very true. We'll just have to be patient.

And let's also not forget that Subsim (and you yourself, Neal) had played a big role in pushing for that delay so that the campaign was in

Plus, from what I've seen of Uboot, it seems that it has been receiving a facelift lately to improve immersion and make it look sharper. Again, a good thing for our hobby - especially if we want to draw in new people who otherwise wouldn't try a submarine game

iambecomelife · 05-17-17, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCIP

No matter what a publisher/developer says about a release date, you must always read it as "when it's done"

Frankly, I'm always more worried when the release date stays too firm, because things rarely go according to plan - and vice versa, delays aren't necessarily a bad thing.

In fact, if Silent Hunter III wasn't delayed by nearly a year (in order to add a dynamic campaign), I'd bet most of us wouldn't even be here on Subsim today

THIS!

I am glad they seem to be waiting, in order to get the game right. And not rushing out a mediocre, throw-away fake simulator.

harag · 05-21-17, 03:55 AM

I'm really looking forward to uboot and really wish them all the best on it. I don't mind the date being pushed back as long as they use the time to make it better, and not bring out other things (board games)

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My main issue is other games at the same time that are coming out. e.g. I'm really looking forward to Shadow Of War in August.

Keep up the good work on UBoot guys!

04-03-17, 07:45 PM	#3
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I always give the developers the benefit of the doubt. They will do their best. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

04-03-17, 11:35 PM	#4
qiaoyech Watch Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 1	I agree with Julhelm. The chance that a small developer team would delay release to con players is much smaller than bigger titles. The only way they would take the same pay for more work is when they want to build a nice reputation. Now if they start to offer day-0 DLCs and cosmetics then I'd start to be skeptical. Until they, I cheer for the devs for trying hard to make it a superior release. __________________ Download NSS Interceptor Updated

04-05-17, 01:10 PM	#5
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	No matter what a publisher/developer says about a release date, you must always read it as "when it's done" Frankly, I'm always more worried when the release date stays too firm, because things rarely go according to plan - and vice versa, delays aren't necessarily a bad thing. In fact, if Silent Hunter III wasn't delayed by nearly a year (in order to add a dynamic campaign), I'd bet most of us wouldn't even be here on Subsim today __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

04-05-17, 02:29 PM	#6
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Very true. We'll just have to be patient. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

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04-03-17, 03:35 AM	#1
Julhelm Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Icy North Posts: 693 Downloads: 189 Uploads: 0	Well, we at Killerfish are consistently too optimistic on release dates. The reality is that development always takes longer than anticipated and especially if you have a small team that cannot afford to release a subpar product. If you look at Uboot, the scope of their game has clearly grown by orders of magnitude since the initial kickstarter. I also don't think anyone seriously tries to pull a 'bait and switch' - that is almost always the result of ambition being greater than the means to pull it off. STALKER was a good example of this.

04-03-17, 05:08 PM	#2
burki Watch Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 17 Downloads: 121 Uploads: 0	Not really doing a bait and switch, but I really wish they would let backers and donors have access to it soon. We were suppose to have access to it in January. They've pushed it back maybe because of the board game, which is a bad idea I think. Really hope those who backed the game have access to it soon. Tired of the pushbacks.

05-21-17, 03:55 AM	#9
harag A-ganger Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 75 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 0	I'm really looking forward to uboot and really wish them all the best on it. I don't mind the date being pushed back as long as they use the time to make it better, and not bring out other things (board games) . My main issue is other games at the same time that are coming out. e.g. I'm really looking forward to Shadow Of War in August. Keep up the good work on UBoot guys!