The all purpose terrorism thread featuring plenty of allah akbar

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Of course, chances are that this also had no missiles, but a strongly worded letter would suffice.

No, that would hurt feelings and the Russians have declared the Channel (and all other water bodies for that matter) as their safe space, so you can't send them antagonizing letters there.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, that would be why there was a warship there too.

Of course, chances are that this also had no missiles, but a strongly worded letter would suffice.

One frigate against the heaviest Missile Cruiser, a Kirov class, that was ever built?

Lousy idea. Kirovs excel in fleet protection, thats what they were build for.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Well, that would be why there was a warship there too.

Of course, chances are that this also had no missiles, but a strongly worded letter would suffice.

May well have been something lurking nearby underneath the surface

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

May well have been something lurking nearby underneath the surface

The issue there is that the reported Kuznetsov's submerged escorts sort of outnumber the RN in that category.

To be more specific - Kuznetsov group, reportedly, was reinforced with 2 Oscar-II class SSGNs and 2 Akula class SSNs. Unless RN both 1) surged more than 2/3 of it's SSNs and 2) concentrated them totally against Kuznetsov grouping then, chances are, they were outnumbered in that respect as well.

p.s. Both Kuznetsov and Peter the Great have soft/hard kill counter torpedo system.

[Oberon]

Submarines in the channel? I doubt it, too much traffic, too much wreckage and not enough play room. Anyone who has done the run through Der kanal in any Silent Hunter game can tell you that. Chances are the escorts have probably sprinted around Scotland and will meet up in the North Sea.

In the unlikely event that anything happened there, well...they're slap bang between French and Dutch forces on one side and British forces on the other.
Even with our depleted forces, the group would not make it into the North Sea.

It's all just the usual posturing.

[ikalugin]

Much bigger issue than any surface or subsurface combatants would be the land based air power. Becuase I don't see French or Dutch armadas the same way I don't see the RN ones. (plus those Granits on Oscar-IIs really do have some good range)

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Submarines in the channel? I doubt it, too much traffic, too much wreckage and not enough play room. Anyone who has done the run through Der kanal in any Silent Hunter game can tell you that. Chances are the escorts have probably sprinted around Scotland and will meet up in the North Sea.

In the unlikely event that anything happened there, well...they're slap bang between French and Dutch forces on one side and British forces on the other.
Even with our depleted forces, the group would not make it into the North Sea.

It's all just the usual posturing.

Rgr that and take comfort in the fact the odds are, had such assets been deployed, those belonging to the west are more likely to be the ones that remained undetected.

[eddie]

Gunmen open fire on mosque in Canada, kill 6 and wounded 8. Glad they caught the gunmen too!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ent/ar-AAmof9J

[Catfish]

Trump's next move: Ban all Canadians from the US!

Seriously, this kind of action will be a problem. As soon as some prominent figure like Trump publicly advocates the opinion of a minority who did not dare to speak this out loud before, the latter now feels encouraged to act in the same alleged [!] tenor.
At least we have seen this in Europe, with Marine lePen, Victor Orban and so forth.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by eddie

Gunmen open fire on mosque in Canada, kill 6 and wounded 8. Glad they caught the gunmen too!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...ent/ar-AAmof9J

Tragic and senseless

Originally Posted by Catfish

Trump's next move: Ban all Canadians from the US!

Seriously, this kind of action will be a problem. As soon as some prominent figure like Trump publicly advocates the opinion of a minority who did not dare to speak this out loud before, the latter now feels encouraged to act in the same alleged [!] tenor.
At least we have seen this in Europe, with Marine lePen, Victor Orban and so forth.

True that and becoming increasingly worrying.

[Rockstar]

What a knee jerk reaction. To insinuate this shooting had something to do with what Trump has said or done just goes to show you haven't bothered to read the article. Also just because you havent heard about problems in Canada until now doesnt mean they never exsisted. Which had you bothered reading the article you would have found this has been an increasing problem in Canada many years before Trump took office.

I know. But Trump derp derp derp!

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

What a knee jerk reaction. Trying to insinutae this shooting had something to do with what Trump has said or done just goes to show you haven't bothered to read the article. Also because you dont hear about problems in Canada doesnt mean they dont exist. Which had you bothered reading the article would have found this has been an increasing problem years before Trump took office.

But Trump derp derp derp

Yeah the liberals are desperate for something, anything they can use to attack Trump.

[Rockstar]

Its not political groups per se its the unreasonable and idiotic seesaw of extremes. Its like the light of common sense and reason has been extingushed only to be replaced with dim wits and obsessive fanaticism.

[Bilge_Rat]

I live in Quebec.

Doubtful this shooting had anything to do with Trump. Most Quebecers are very liberal and have no use for Trump's policies.

Still too early to know what happened, although the shooters have been identified, one was from Morocco.

Many of the Muslims who frequented the Mosque worked at Laval University and seems the two shooters were students there, so there may be a link.

[Rockstar]

From Morocco? I havent heard that yet but it might explain one witness report I read "They started to fire, and as they shot, they yelled, 'Allahu akbar!'". Maybe the shooters didnt think the professors were true muslims anymore, you know having been swayed by the evils of western society such as education, prosperity and freedom.

hell who knows, like ya said still too early.

ya but Trump derp derp derp