Urban housing development in Scotland.

Commander Wallace · 12-27-16, 08:07 PM

Interesting read. Since you live in Scotland, What are your feelings ?

MGR1 · 12-28-16, 05:40 AM

It's a very complex subject!

Scotland's property laws have been altered on several occasions, the most recent of which was back in 2000, as detailed in the Skyscrapercity thread, so the "feudal" nature of the system no longer exists.

However, if we look at the social impact, all I can say is that although the same forces were active throughout Scottish urban centres in the 19th century, something peculiarly toxic seems to have germanated in the Glasgow area. One theory that I have heard is that the later stages of the clearences in the Highlands were actually used as a mechanism to force people to migrate, specifically to Glasgow, in order to provide the work force needed for the Clyde Valley's industries. In addition you also had large scale migration from Ireland to Scotland during the same period. So you have two sources of population who have no real love for the ruling classes gathering in the same area. Add in the traditional poor management/worker relationship which still afflicts the UK, plus terrible housing conditions and you have a pretty nasty brew so it can be argued that the Red Clydeside movement was an inevitable result.

Mike.

Commander Wallace · 12-28-16, 05:49 PM

Thanks for taking the time out to explain the housing industry and property laws, Mike. The laws and demographics in Europe or in your case, Scotland can be difficult to understand for those of us who don't reside there.

Again, thanks for the explanation.

12-28-16, 05:40 AM	#2
MGR1 Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland, United Kingdom Posts: 980 Downloads: 252 Uploads: 0	It's a very complex subject! Scotland's property laws have been altered on several occasions, the most recent of which was back in 2000, as detailed in the Skyscrapercity thread, so the "feudal" nature of the system no longer exists. However, if we look at the social impact, all I can say is that although the same forces were active throughout Scottish urban centres in the 19th century, something peculiarly toxic seems to have germanated in the Glasgow area. One theory that I have heard is that the later stages of the clearences in the Highlands were actually used as a mechanism to force people to migrate, specifically to Glasgow, in order to provide the work force needed for the Clyde Valley's industries. In addition you also had large scale migration from Ireland to Scotland during the same period. So you have two sources of population who have no real love for the ruling classes gathering in the same area. Add in the traditional poor management/worker relationship which still afflicts the UK, plus terrible housing conditions and you have a pretty nasty brew so it can be argued that the Red Clydeside movement was an inevitable result. Mike. __________________ "I am the battleship Jean Bart. This name originates from a certain 'respected' privateer... Yes? You want to know what privateers are? Hmph, they are pirates that rob openly under the banner of their country." Jean Bart from the mobile game Azur Lane.

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12-27-16, 08:07 PM	#1
Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,323 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	Interesting read. Since you live in Scotland, What are your feelings ?

12-28-16, 05:49 PM	#3
Commander Wallace Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Under the sea in an Octupus garden in the shade Posts: 5,323 Downloads: 366 Uploads: 0	Thanks for taking the time out to explain the housing industry and property laws, Mike. The laws and demographics in Europe or in your case, Scotland can be difficult to understand for those of us who don't reside there. Again, thanks for the explanation.