Royal navy loses its anti-ship missiles

[Skybird]

and we really cannot afford to be bickering over borders when the likelihood of France being invaded by Spain is pretty damn small.

Last time I checked France was still linked up with NATO, and so borders get defended on the east-european border with Russia, in the Mediterranean, in Scandinavia and over the supply lines in the Atlantic. And at the European border to Turkey as well.

Why else had even the Canadians troops stationed in Europe in the past? Not because the Greenland Inuit threatened to march into Toronto. And the risk of Denmark invading Germany, is also relatively small, I'd say.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Last time I checked France was still linked up with NATO, and so borders get defended on the east-european border with Russia, in the Mediterranean, in Scandinavia and over the supply lines in the Atlantic. And at the European border to Turkey as well.

Why else had even the Canadians troops stationed in Europe in the past? Not because the Greenland Inuit threatened to march into Toronto. And the risk of Denmark invading Germany, is also relatively small, I'd say.

Indeed, but the US is becoming increasingly isolationist, NATO still holds but it might not hold forever and we need a back-up in case the next time things go south the US doesn't immediately throw its hat into the ring to help us.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Indeed, but the US is becoming increasingly isolationist, NATO still holds but it might not hold forever and we need a back-up in case the next time things go south the US doesn't immediately throw its hat into the ring to help us.

Whatever gave you the suspicion that might happen?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Whatever gave you the suspicion that might happen?

History.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Oberon

She'd probably have scrapped the ships too!

Still, Perseus might come into service before 2018, but I doubt it, should be a damn good missile when we do get it though, capable of hitting one large or multiple smaller vessels with one missile due to submunitions.

Is Perseus still being developed? I thought it died in the SDSR last year.
As to the RN AShMs - you still get TLAM block IV, which has an AShM capability.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Shouldn't be much of a problem because we probably won't have much of a navy worth fighting in the near future.

Why? The naval programs are ongoing.

[Jimbuna]

We currently have more admirals than warships, the two carriers being built have no aircraft to fly off them but as a partial counterbalance the Astute Class building program is ongoing (at least when they aren't being run aground).

[ikalugin]

I mean you are still getting JSFs for those carriers.

The problem for the UK is mass, but then it is so across all the branches.

p.s. ie UK could not deploy a corps/army type formation by itself b/c UK lacks such a formation.

[Jimbuna]

'Quality over quantity' is what the government would have us believe