New £5 note no thank you

Skybird · 12-03-16, 07:02 AM

Nobody is forced to buy there, there are many alternatives, I assume.

If a shop owner would say he only accepts pure gold as currency, I'm okay with it. But he has to live with the consequences of the ways in which he runs his business, good and bad ones.

I also have no problem with shop owners saying they do not agree to make a deal with this or that customer, may it be a carnivore or omnivore like me, or a burkha-thing, or a known Nazi. I have a problem with "anti discrimination legislation" demanding shop owners to accept just everybody, no matter whom.

If I would run my own business, I would even reserve the right to refuse to agree to come to terms over a deal with a customer just becasue I do not like his nose. As long as I have not accepted payment or contract, I refuse to accept any obligation of mine. I am not the other's property, I am not his slave. Of course, I have to accept the consequences of my business decisions and sales policies as far as the behaviour of other potential customers is concerned.

I think these extremist vegetarians/veganists are mentally not to be taken serious anymore, but its their shop and thus their business. As long as they would not try to enforce their ways on my way of life and do not try to change society to their liking - which many indeed do try - I would not fight them. But where I get hindered in my free choice by their ideology, I start to go after them.

Jimbuna · 12-03-16, 07:51 AM

They must have a cracking business if they can afford to turn customers away.

Skybird · 12-03-16, 08:01 AM

Do not underestimate the motivational power of religious convictions, too. Over here, I avoid going to Bio-stores and alternative shops, its always like entering some cult's holy cave. And it always smells of rotten vegetable. Always. Even bigger Bio supermarkets have a certain smell around them that drives me away. Not to mention that staff there have to make loads and loads of unpaid over-hours, many of these stores are in spectacular violation of working standards as demanded by our oh so socially balanced laws. And these workers even do it, and like it!

Claiming that it is a motivation comparing to that of relgion, is no exaggeration.

STEED · 12-03-16, 08:21 AM

Yes what the cafe is doing is not against the law but this bit did make me wonder..

Quote:

Mrs Meijland said she had made a "promise" to customers that the cafe was an "ethical establishment".

I may be barking up the wrong tree but how can their establishment be ethical when people walk in wearing leather shoes and coats and may be fur as well. Seems too me they are being some what selective about their view point or just jumping on the band wagon.

Jimbuna · 12-03-16, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Yes what the cafe is doing is not against the law but this bit did make me wonder..

I may be barking up the wrong tree but how can their establishment be ethical when people walk in wearing leather shoes and coats and may be fur as well. Seems too me they are being some what selective about their view point or just jumping on the band wagon.

Good point but it could also be an advertising ploy as well.

V13dweller · 12-03-16, 12:14 PM

Australia's money is made of plastic, yet the Anti-Oil industry advocates don't
complain, coins are made from mined metals and greenies don't seem to fuss, but oh well.

I think people in the UK are just finding reasons to cause trouble, all people do in this day and age is try to create trouble for one reason or another, though this is Legal Tender, so it is valid currency and they should respect that, but then again, I wouldn't want to be seen anywhere near that kind of place.

Oberon · 12-03-16, 02:50 PM

Plastic is derived from oil, oil is created from the millions of years compression of dead plants and animals.

Yeah...

12-03-16, 07:02 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,722 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Nobody is forced to buy there, there are many alternatives, I assume. If a shop owner would say he only accepts pure gold as currency, I'm okay with it. But he has to live with the consequences of the ways in which he runs his business, good and bad ones. I also have no problem with shop owners saying they do not agree to make a deal with this or that customer, may it be a carnivore or omnivore like me, or a burkha-thing, or a known Nazi. I have a problem with "anti discrimination legislation" demanding shop owners to accept just everybody, no matter whom. If I would run my own business, I would even reserve the right to refuse to agree to come to terms over a deal with a customer just becasue I do not like his nose. As long as I have not accepted payment or contract, I refuse to accept any obligation of mine. I am not the other's property, I am not his slave. Of course, I have to accept the consequences of my business decisions and sales policies as far as the behaviour of other potential customers is concerned. I think these extremist vegetarians/veganists are mentally not to be taken serious anymore, but its their shop and thus their business. As long as they would not try to enforce their ways on my way of life and do not try to change society to their liking - which many indeed do try - I would not fight them. But where I get hindered in my free choice by their ideology, I start to go after them. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

12-03-16, 07:51 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,016 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	They must have a cracking business if they can afford to turn customers away. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-03-16, 08:01 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,722 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Do not underestimate the motivational power of religious convictions, too. Over here, I avoid going to Bio-stores and alternative shops, its always like entering some cult's holy cave. And it always smells of rotten vegetable. Always. Even bigger Bio supermarkets have a certain smell around them that drives me away. Not to mention that staff there have to make loads and loads of unpaid over-hours, many of these stores are in spectacular violation of working standards as demanded by our oh so socially balanced laws. And these workers even do it, and like it! Claiming that it is a motivation comparing to that of relgion, is no exaggeration. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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12-03-16, 12:14 PM	#6
V13dweller Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 768 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 2	Australia's money is made of plastic, yet the Anti-Oil industry advocates don't complain, coins are made from mined metals and greenies don't seem to fuss, but oh well. I think people in the UK are just finding reasons to cause trouble, all people do in this day and age is try to create trouble for one reason or another, though this is Legal Tender, so it is valid currency and they should respect that, but then again, I wouldn't want to be seen anywhere near that kind of place.

12-03-16, 02:50 PM	#7
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Plastic is derived from oil, oil is created from the millions of years compression of dead plants and animals. Yeah...