Why Trump - the white riot

[August]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

The thing is with living in a democracy that considers 'free speech' to be an essential right is that it involves having to see opinions you don't like occasionally.

Doesn't this essential free speech you talk about extend to the right to say what I think of those opinions?

Originally Posted by August

Doesn't this essential free speech you talk about extend to the right to say what I think of those opinions?

It does. It also entitles others to respond to your indignant objections to something nobody actually said.

[August]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

It does. It also entitles others to respond to your indignant objections to something nobody actually said.

Nobody? Seems to me that I just heard some Democrat bigwig use that exact term just recently.

In any case now that we have established that we both still have the right to object maybe you can tell me why he calls half the country sociopaths or supporters of sociopaths and you only complain that I asked him if he was going to use the same insult that got that line of thinking defeated at the polls just this past tuesday. Perhaps you'd prefer I used another the words of another Democrat bigwig and call them bitter clingers instead.

FWIW this is actually a pretty interesting exchange for me because it's evidence that the Democrats have not learned anything from their defeat at the polls.

[Rockstar]

Well worth the read indeed. That is the most idiotic and racist article I've read to date, you should be ashamed for being so weak minded and taking up precious bandwidth to post such drivel.

The reality is the voters which turned out for this event is much more intergrated and dynamic than you have been told to think and then regurgitate said crap here. I truely hope this was just a troll and you or anyone else are not actually taking this article seriously.

[Oberon]

Yeah, there is perhaps some element of racism in there, but it's just one part of the spectrum of Trump voters. There's all kinds of nasty and also all kinds of not-nasty. To say that just nasties voted Trump is to drastically underestimate the scale of the situation and, indeed, dismiss the underlying problems. There's all kinds of differences in this, age, gender, race, trends that people are going to pick over for the next four years, some examples I will drag from the BBC and post below:






http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37889032


Time will tell.

[Rockstar]

OK lets take a poll: any whites males here who voted because you are an extreme right wing neo nazi nationalists who hates brown people and wants to close borders not letting anyone in and demand your lost white priveledge returned to you?

Dont you see how stupid this arguement is. What a bunch of simple minded extremists, go read a book for change.

[Bilge_Rat]

VOX is a liberal rag. During the election campaign, it basically functioned as the press arm for the Clinton campaign. It has no credibility whatsoever.

In fact, many publications completely destroyed their credibility during the campaign by being outrageously anti-Trump, such as POLITICO, VOX, SLATE, NY Times, Washington Post.

The only site which was objective and is now my first go to site for the day's political news is REAL CLEAR POLITICS.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

REAL CLEAR POLITICS was also the only site that on Monday was showing the race as a dead heat while everyone else was already celebrating President-elect Clinton.

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37889032

Not that i'm disagreeing with them but I wonder if the estimates on those charts were calculated with the same algorithms that the media used to figure the Democrats had a winning hand in the last election.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by August

Not that i'm disagreeing with them but I wonder if the estimates on those charts were calculated with the same algorithms that the media used to figure the Democrats had a winning hand in the last election.

These days its easy for extremists to find online polls and artcles which agree with their extremist world view.

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

I disagree with linked article, even though racism certainly plays some role.

If this was merely about racism, then Finland doesn't fit into picture. Finns Party gained its greatest victories when a) immigrant situation was quite stabile and b) other political parties were in middle of financial misconduct scandal.

Refugee crisis began well before latest parliamentary elections and logically there should have been surge in Finns Party popularity. That didn't happen, instead Greens (+5 seats, +1,5 points popularity) and Centre (+14 seats, +5,3 points popularity) parties got electoral victories at expense of everyone else except Swedish People's Party which retained its seats. Finns Party lost one seat and -1,4 in popularty, but as everyone else crashed that was enough for second largest seat number and third highest popularity.

Finns Party got into government because a) National Coalition and Social Democrats do not fit into same government and b) there was no sufficient support for centre-left government. Unfortunate outcome is that government can't operate without Finns Party support so they have significant leverage on Finnish goverment policies.

There certainly is very large and influential racist far-right section within Finns Party. However it alone is not enough to explain party's popularity and support.

2015 Finnish parliamentary election results are available here: http://vaalit.yle.fi/tulospalvelu/20...lueet_##graafi