War on Drugs Filipino style

[Mr Quatro]

Is alright to talk about drugs and drug dealers and drug agents in this thread?

From a arm chair prospective I can't tell if the drug problem is getting better or getting worse. I am ashamed of the two years I spent dealing and using, but I am clean now and a better person that can see my past mistakes.

I am lucky not to be in prison hoping for an Obama pardon lol

I love my country no matter who the president is, no matter which party is in control of the distribution of our tax dollars. I still love the USA even when it gets embarrassed by the NSA/Snowden affair.

What is the DEA doing about the drug problem?
We don't know, but we know what they were doing, uh?

The DEA Just Ended A Secret 15-Year Phone Call Spying Program

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-us-...program-2015-1

A Justice Department spokesman said on Friday that the DEA no longer collects the data and that "all of the information has been deleted."

U.S. Government Helped Rise of Mexican Drug Cartel: Report

The U.S. government allowed the Mexican Sinaloa drug cartel to carry out its business unimpeded between 2000 and 2012 in exchange for information on rival cartels, an investigation by El Universal claims.

Citing court documents, the Mexican newspaper reports that DEA officers met with top Sinaloa officials over fifty times and offered to have charges against cartel members dropped in the U.S., among other pledges.
Dr. Edgardo Buscaglia, a senior research scholar in law and economics at Columbia University, says that the tactic has been previously used in Colombia, Cambodia, Thailand and Afghanistan.

http://world.time.com/2014/01/14/dea...n-drug-cartel/

At first I was shocked, but in hindsight how can they do their job without what they were doing?

I don't think they can

[Von Due]

First to Mr Quatro. I am really happy hearing you have that put behind you. Rock on.

Now, I am tempted to paraphrase Bill Hicks.
"So, CIA, how did you track drug money to North Korean banks?"
"We.. uh... looked at the receipts"

Now one can really wonder what the killings in the Philippines will achieve.

[mapuc]

I have lost two of my old classmate to this evil stuff.


Markus

[August]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

^ sounds good, there won't be many being set free though.
You could always give them an incentive to be drug free, get the cameras rolling and the one with the highest drug count in their body gets to face the rope.
Clean and simple me thinks but our useless governments wouldn't go for it, They could call it "stop or drop", it would make something worth watching on the TV for a change.
You might think that I'm jesting about it but I'm deadly serious, I despise drug addicts and pushers and if they needed someone to do the job my name would be going forward.

Well if our government ever starts doing this then i'm joining the rebellion that it will cause.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

^ sounds good, there won't be many being set free though.
You could always give them an incentive to be drug free, get the cameras rolling and the one with the highest drug count in their body gets to face the rope.
Clean and simple me thinks but our useless governments wouldn't go for it, They could call it "stop or drop", it would make something worth watching on the TV for a change.
You might think that I'm jesting about it but I'm deadly serious, I despise drug addicts and pushers and if they needed someone to do the job my name would be going forward.

Was that you I saw constructing the gallows when I was driving through Sheffield last week?

[Moonlight]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Was that you I saw constructing the gallows when I was driving through Sheffield last week?

Shhhhh, our glorious leader (kinky knickers May) doesn't want people to know about her new illegal immigrant policy as yet, she's shelved the drug fiasco for now and has moved us onto the finding and disposing of evidence problem.
Where do I find a 100.000 + illegal immigrants that you lost I asked her? "on the end of a bleeding rope" she replied.

[Von Due]

This Duterte fellow is getting more and more bizarre.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-37274594

[Onkel Neal]

But Mr Duterte said he is not concerned about the opinions of those observing his actions, adding that he would not take orders from the US, a former colonial ruler of the Philippines.

...and former drug dealer. So yeah, Obama may want to sit this one out.

[Jimbuna]

Next stage: Obama cancels a meeting with Duterte.

I wonder if the Phillipines will relish taking on the Chinese alone over the Spratly Islands or if in fact the US will be able to allow it

Obama calls off meeting with Philippine leader after 'whore' jibe

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-37281821

[Von Due]

"While the immediate cause was my strong comments to certain press questions that elicited concern and distress, we also regret that it came across as a personal attack on the US president," a statement by his office said.

Well, we suppoooooose it COULD be taken that way.....

[Skybird]

"Celebrating diplomacy Filipino style."

[mapuc]

From what I have seen and heard from the President Duterte I can assume he is not so well into using the diplomatic language

If he had-he would tell Obama to go an fly a kite in such a manor, that Obama would looking forward to this.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

He'll probably get on very well with Trump should he get elected in November.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by foreignpolicy.com

1) Taking advantage of the Philippine people’s understandable concern about a high crime rate, Duterte has unleashed a wave of violence against anyone suspected of being a criminal. During his campaign, he promised to kill so many outlaws that the “fish will grow fat” in Manila Bay from feasting on the remains. So far, more than 1,800 people have been killed by police and vigilantes since he came into office. No trial, no evidence: just death. Human-rights advocates are aghast, and understandably so. (It was in reaction to a journalist’s question about what he would say to Obama if the American president criticized his human-rights record that Duterte uttered his witty “son of a whore” comeback.)
Horrifying cases of misconduct are coming to light — for example, the execution of two impoverished Manila residents, Renato and Jaypee Bertes, a father and son who worked odd jobs and smoked shabu, a cheap form of methamphetamine. They were arrested by police, beaten, and shot to death. “The police said the two had tried to escape by seizing an officer’s gun,” the New York Times reported. “But a forensic examination found that the men had been incapacitated by the beatings before they were shot; Jaypee Bertes had a broken right arm.”
And just this week a self-confessed assassin testified before the Philippine Senate that he was a member of a death squad that Duterte, when he was mayor of Davao, used to kill not only “drug dealers, rapists, [purse] snatchers” but also political opponents. Some of the victims were allegedly disemboweled and dumped at sea; at least one was fed to crocodiles. In the past, Duterte has both admitted and denied running a death squad.

2) Duterte publicly accused scores of Philippine officials and military officers of involvement in the drug trade without revealing any evidence. He gave them 24 hours to surrender or be “hunted down.”
“Due process has nothing to do with my mouth,” he said. “There are no proceedings here, no lawyers.”

3) Duterte has justified the killing of journalists by saying, “Just because you’re a journalist you are not exempted from assassination if you’re a son of a bitch.”

He's getting results alright...

[Catfish]

I guess McArthur would be back again soon, if he was still alive

The world is becoming a place for right-wing bigmouths.