An overlooked corner of West Texas is believed to contain billions of bls of new oil

[Mr Quatro]

We owe China money, right? Why don't we (USA) offer straight out transfer deals of oil from the USA (Texas is still in the USA, right ) straight to China and reduce the national debt at the same time.

Just take all of the taxes and middle men out of the deal to make it work.

China finally surpassed the United States as the top global importer of crude oil. China finally surpassed the United States as the top global importer of crude oil. May 2015

China imported an average of 6.1 million barrels of oil a day. Of that, more than 52 percent — or 3.2 million barrels — came from countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Iraq.

In other words, despite years of effort to source more energy from places like Africa, Latin America, Central Asia, and Russia, China gets more oil today from the Middle East than all the oil it imported just a few years ago.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/11/...ast-opec-sloc/

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

We owe China money, right? Why don't we (USA) offer straight out transfer deals of oil from the USA (Texas is still in the USA, right ) straight to China and reduce the national debt at the same time.

Just take all of the taxes and middle men out of the deal to make it work.


http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/05/11/...ast-opec-sloc/

Maybe we could just give them California instead?

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

Think bigger like a Texan. ..
They'll secede from the planet.

This is going to hurt me, if it keeps oil prices low

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by em2nought

Maybe we could just give them California instead?

Just Long Beach

$1.241 trillion
US Economy. The U.S. debt to China is $1.241 trillion, as of June 2016. That's nearly 31% of the $4.038 trillion in Treasury bills, notes, and bonds held by foreign countries. The rest of the $19 trillion debt is owned by either the American people or by the U.S. government itself ...

[Catfish]

^ regarding alternative fuel, i thought you do not need to tank hydrogen in a car with fuel cells. The fuel cells produce as much hydrogen as is needed at the moment, there is no need for a storage. I wonder what they "tank" into the Mirai, because if it is hydrogen it would not need fuel cells.

Regarding the Hindenburg.. as said before, not possible with fuel cells because not enough hydrogen.

edit: i was wrong. The Mirai tanks hydrogen, and burns it with oxygen to generate energy - so the Mirai has hydrogen tanks.
Regarding danger of explosion normal fuel is not harmless as well.. but we got used to it.

http://www.popsci.com/how-hydrogen-vehicles-work

[Catfish]

Hmm i always thought the other way round..

You have the usual internal combustion engine like the Otto one, and you have a much bigger battery, but not as big as like with the entirely electric cars like Tesla or Ampera.

You start the internal combustion engine by producing hydrogen out of water, with the battery's energy, until the engine runs. Then it automatically switches to the generator's energy being driven by the engine, to split hydrogen and oxygen from water.

You can then either drive your car with a conventional engine fuelled by hydrogen (all combustion engines can use mineral fuels, hydrogen, ethanol or anything that explodes without changing much of the layout), or you can entirely disconnect the engine from the drive train, and just produce electricity to power an electric engine that moves teh car, like with Diesel-electric propulsion, only that it is hydrogen instead of Diesel. All without emissions else than water vapour.

"Problem" is you would not need to buy fuel anymore... or only demineralized water. I can see some companies won't like that..