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Old 06-27-16, 12:39 PM   #916
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Somebody brought up earlier how Americans didnt understand the idea of a politician resigning after making a mistake. As an American I expect wrongs to made be right and see resignation simply as a cowards way out.

On the otherhand as an American I am completly baffeled by how a nationwide vote can be held and then ignored by the government.
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Old 06-27-16, 12:48 PM   #917
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Some more buyers remorse from Kelvin Mackenzie from 'The Sun':

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Old 06-27-16, 12:49 PM   #918
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Somebody brought up earlier how Americans didnt understand the idea of a politician resigning after making a mistake. As an American I expect wrongs to made be right and see resignation simply as a cowards way out.

On the otherhand as an American I am completly baffeled by how a nationwide vote can be held and then ignored by the government.
HUH! Jeff Davis resigned? Ol' Abe ignored us!?? One ran away and the other...got shot!
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Old 06-27-16, 01:22 PM   #919
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Is this fake, or is this ..



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Hmmmm. That depends on whether the SNP actually try to block Article 50 at Holyrood.

So, if Holyrood tries anything cute, Westminster will just override it. Also remember, as Parliament is the Sovereign Power in the UK, it can dismantle the devolution settlement and close down Holyrood if it felt it was necessary.

It might be political dynamite, but direct rule from Westminster is still a possibility, as it is for Wales and Northern Ireland.

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What I wonder is why is it Sturgeon wants to become independent yet wants to remain in a block with 27 other countries?
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What I wonder is why is it Sturgeon wants to become independent yet wants to remain in a block with 27 other countries?
Probably the same reason that Yorkshire and Cornwall are bricking it.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/politics/guarantees-wanted-over-the-future-of-european-millions-1-7982120
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Old 06-27-16, 01:45 PM   #922
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Everyone for themselves....nothing ever changes much.
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Old 06-27-16, 01:50 PM   #923
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What I wonder is why is it Sturgeon wants to become independent yet wants to remain in a block with 27 other countries?
They did not see a reason to leave the UK, when the latter remained in the EU. The EU has created jobs, and initiated some infrastructure projects. Then, oil. Also, whisky exports Now the situation has drastically changed.
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Oh heavens. Let's not become TOO PC because then we would really mess *everything* up

Just for the record: Marine Le Pen is French, not Italian.



Belated reply but I know Le Pen is French. Should have used my punctuation better. This isnt about being PC but pointing out that on mainland europe the euroskeptic are in the main to the right and close to the far right. But sure you want to think disliking the likes of Le Pen is just being PC then fill your boots.
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But sure you want to think disliking the likes of Le Pen is just being PC then fill your boots.
He's a Skybirdian, Xabba...I'd save your energy.
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They did not see a reason to leave the UK, when the latter remained in the EU. The EU has created jobs, and initiated some infrastructure projects. Then, oil. Also, whisky exports Now the situation has drastically changed.
What Catfish wrote, Jim. As a whole, being part of the EU has been good for Scotland. Although I still believe it's fundamentally flawed as a concept, I'll give the EU that. If the UK government had invested properly in the UK as whole (not just in Scotland) instead of into London and the South East, then all that EU money would not have been necessary. Nor would it have raised the spectre of, shall we say, alternative national loyalties.

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There goes the credit rating.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-br...-idUSKCN0ZD2EM

In before "all according to plan" or "you need to run 100 yards backward before you can run 100 yards forward" or some similar nonsense.
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Don't panic, we have a BBB rating and we're still a developed nation
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