Intel layoffs: More seismic changes to come

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the deeper infiltration of AMD chips into the mainstream market. I'm thinking it was Rockstar who had said they built a computer with an AMD board along with the accompanying AMD chip that in this case was a 6 core 3.5 GHZ unit. I remember it being said in this forum that it was working very well. If this wasn't Rockstar who built this, my apologies for getting that wrong.

Although Intel are better suited for different tasks than AMD chips, both have their strengths and for the basic user, those lines are very blurred. It seems Intel overly priced their chips and for a great number of users, AMD is a cost effective and attractive alternative to higher priced Intel chips.

AMD has not made a profit in 4 years.

But this week, their stock jumped 50%+, they have a deal going with China to supply CPUs for their upcoming server industry.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

AMD has not made a profit in 4 years.

But this week, their stock jumped 50%+, they have a deal going with China to supply CPUs for their upcoming server industry.

Zoinks!
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/amd...lts-2016-04-22

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

AMD has not made a profit in 4 years.

But this week, their stock jumped 50%+, they have a deal going with China to supply CPUs for their upcoming server industry.

Originally Posted by AktungBBY

Intel rules (manipulates?) the seas in the chip/PC trade I don't see a big lo$$ for their bottom-line...

JEESE! I wonder who went out and bought AMD stock....

[Mr Quatro]

January 2014 I put together this PC for me:

Processor: AMD A-8-5600k APU 3.60 GHz with Radeon HD Graphics
installed memory (RAM) 16GB

Windows 7 64 bit

I like AMD cheap affordable easy to install and to keep cool

intel would cost $100 to $150 more which I could then spend on video card or more memory.

Now that I think about it I need a better PC, but have always lived on the premisive thought that if it works don't fix it.

[Oberon]

My old girl has been running more or less on the components I got for her in 2011. Heck, the main HDD is much older than that. I think the newest part is the RAM which I got a year or two ago, but the CPU, Mobo and GPU are all 2011 stock and they're still holding up alright.
I won't run GTAV on max settings (or quite possibly at any settings) but it works for what I want it to.

Of course, now I've typed this something will probably explode.

[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

January 2014 I put together this PC for me:

Processor: AMD A-8-5600k APU 3.60 GHz with Radeon HD Graphics
installed memory (RAM) 16GB

Windows 7 64 bit

I like AMD cheap affordable easy to install and to keep cool

intel would cost $100 to $150 more which I could then spend on video card or more memory.

Now that I think about it I need a better PC, but have always lived on the premisive thought that if it works don't fix it.

Did you find that the AMD CPU ran hotter or did you put in extra cooling ? I understand the A-8 ran cooler than it's predecessors.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Commander Wallace

Did you find that the AMD CPU ran hotter or did you put in extra cooling ? I understand the A-8 ran cooler than it's predecessors.

Has a stock fan, runs day and night ... the air temperature in the room does make a difference however so I use a small table fan at the under the table case level and run the AC up here for me in the summer time.

[Dowly]

AMD CPU's tend to run a bit hot, but you can can easily fix that with a cheap CPU fan.

[Onkel Neal]

Wow, this leaves the market to ARM.

Intel could be on the verge of exiting the market for smartphones and standalone tablets, wasting billions of dollars it spent trying to expand in those markets.

The company is immediately canceling Atom chips, code-named Sofia and Broxton, for mobile devices, an Intel spokeswoman confirmed.

These are the first products on the chopping block as part of Intel's plan to reshape operations after announcing plans this month to cut 12,000 jobs.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/30635...tom-chips.html

[Torvald Von Mansee]

A friend of mine who works at Intel as a contractor tells me most of the people who are being fired are employees with benefits, some late in their career.

Of course, the important thing is that the executives get huge bonuses, am I right?

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

A friend of mine who works at Intel as a contractor tells me most of the people who are being fired are employees with benefits, some late in their career.

Of course, the important thing is that the executives get huge bonuses, am I right?

You are correct. Hopefully these execs will burn in hades. They are letting engineers go. Brilliant! For every engineer they let go, I think they should let go of 10 corporate service people, as they are useless and serve no useful function. I would not want to be an exec there, they are a rudderless ship at the moment. But hey, they have Lady Gaga 's endorsement!

[Skybird]

https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/6690...plug-pc-market

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by Skybird

https://www.thurrott.com/mobile/6690...plug-pc-market

Folks, this is a potential extinction moment, with Android and iOS playing the role of the asteroid that is hurtling to earth to kill off the Windows dinosaurs. And if you think PCs are a small part of personal computing today, it’s only going to get worse a few years down the road as an entire generation of Google-services-using, Apple-hardware-wielding youngsters streams into the workforce expecting to use the tools they’re familiar with. Our children are not growing up on Microsoft technologies. To them, Microsoft is as relevant as Sears, AOL or IBM.

Not convinced PCs will die out completely, but if their share of the market keeps diminishing, costs and innovation could be affected.

Google’s Making Its Own Chips Now. Time for Intel to Freak Out

9/10 for the title

[vienna]

The whole Apple will replace MS in the business world argument has been going on for decades. Experience has taught me the demise of MS and MS-driven PCs is a bit exaggerated. For a very, very long time, generations raised in an Apple education technology environment have had to deal with the fact MS PCs are the very dominant presence in the real world business environment and have had to adapt to the fact. The idea businesses will scrap MS PCs and embrace Apple environments is false; the sheer cost of such a change would make any good-sized business balk. Apple really did itself in as far as PCs are concerned when they both over-priced their product and placed severe constraints on the ability of business to modify, scale, customize, and easily integrate their systems. Businesses did not choose MS and IBM products and clones because they were better than Apple products, they did so because they were less expensive, easier to service and maintain, and far more flexible than Apple devices and OSes. Apple thought they had a winning scheme when they threw their weight behind setting up educational programs designed to "hook" the young students and have them become acolytes who would spread the word of Apple unto the world; unfortunately for Apple, the business world was looking for fast and cheap, as always, and Apple was not cheap and, given its somewhat limited production capacity when PCs first came on the market, Apple was unable to provide product fast enough to meet demand. In the years I have had in the field of data processing, from mainframes to tablets, no matter what system or format, the person coming on to the job always has to adjust and adapt to the prevailing system. Apple is too far behind the curve when it comes to business needs: does anyone know of a major business running an Apple server?...

I don't think PC desktops will vanish altogether; they may remain in much the same manner as phonograph turntables, which, lately, have seen a significant resurgence of popularity, as have tube amplifiers for musicians and audiophiles. Where the real change will come is in the operating systems: the Apple OS has now been supplanted in worldwide popularity and use by Android and I would not be surprised to see desktops running Android-based OSes in the near future. Other OSes, like Linux, will have their adherents, but when it comes to developing a standardized, across all all devices and media OS system, Android is the big dog. If you've got to make all of your business be able to interact easily and cheaply, Android, with its wide base on so many personal devices currently has the upper hand...


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