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[Commander Wallace]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

"Attributed" might be the better word. There is no existing written evidence by Franklin with that quote in it. There is a letter alleged to have been written by Franklin, with that quote in it, but its intent was to support government involvement, not deny it.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-ben...in-really-said


Falsely attributed in this case, as the phrase did not exist before 1961.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/b/2005...patriotism.htm


Absolutely not true in Jefferson's case. He was America's Minister (Ambassador) to France at the time, and had no knowledge of the Constitution at all until James Madison, who was so directly involved as to later be called "The Father of The Constitution" wrote him about it. Jefferson did influence the Bill of Rights when he wrote Madison that he would not support the Constitution if it did not have a listing of individual rights attached to it. He believed the Constitution granted too much power to the Federal Government and was opposed to people like Alexander Hamilton, who used his position as Secretary of the Treasure to create a National Bank.

I suggest you read up on the subject a bit more .

Thomas Jefferson (April 13 [O.S. April 2] 1743 – July 4, 1826) was an American Founding Father who was principal author of the Declaration of Independence (1776).

During the American Revolution, he represented Virginia in the Continental Congress that adopted the Declaration, drafted the law for religious freedom as a Virginia legislator, and served as a wartime governor (1779–1781).
Jefferson served as a delegate to the Second Continental Congress beginning in 1775 at the outbreak of the American Revolutionary War. He sought out John Adams who, along with the latter's cousin Samuel, had emerged as a leader of the Congress. Jefferson and Adams established a permanent friendship which led to Jefferson's work on the Declaration of Independence. Adams supported Jefferson's appointment to the Committee of Five formed to write the Declaration in furtherance of the Lee Resolution passed by the Congress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson

Apparently ,Wikipedia disagrees with you. Perhaps you should send them a note and site your expertise. If you notice, I had said " one of the framers " of the Constitution. Wikipedia agrees with that .

Your time might be better spent reading up on the material instead of trying to make others look foolish.

The article I wrote was to inform others of what issues are taking shape in Federal Court and how far reaching the implications of these questions are and the ramifications and consequences of any decisions.

The article was further written to invite discussion and debate among our more learned and intelligent Subsim members.