[REL] Squid launcher

gap · 02-11-16, 04:18 PM

At last!

I finished modelling the squid laucher. Now it is time to unwrap it. Creating a good UV map can be a boring task, but it shouldn't take as long as the modelling part.

tomfon · 02-12-16, 04:16 AM

Wow!

Great work, gap!!!!

Fahnenbohn · 02-12-16, 06:57 AM

This is just perfect mate.

Next part is the animation for the projectiles...

Anvar1061 · 02-12-16, 09:21 AM

SSS

SquareSteelBar · 02-12-16, 10:37 AM

The World According to Gap

Aktungbby · 02-12-16, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SquareSteelBar

The World According to Gap

The "squid pro quo" in this case!

gap · 09-22-16, 04:48 PM

Today I was re-thinking about this mod and the way to bypass the limitations of the hedgehog controller that we need to use if we want the AI to fire the new weapon correctly.

What if add three dummy nodes to the launcher model (one for each of the three muzzles, each aligned with the main axis of its respective barrel) and we attach an individual wpn_Hedgehog controller to each of them? We could then equip the controllers with dummy and invisible hedgehog projectiles, and set the weapon to use a modified fire_effect particle generator which will spawn a motion-aligned squid projectile (as done for the AI torpedos). Given the different alignment of the three nodes, and by setting appropriately the starting velocity of each charge (this would require the use of three slightly different particle effects, one for each barrel/projectile), I think we could obtain a triangular lauch pattern ca. 250 m in front of the ship, similar to the one created by the real squids. By further fine-tuning DC's speed and the max_range and diameter properties of each contoller (but also the the fall_speed, detonate_depth and depth_precison of the dummy hedgehog and of the sqid projectiles are playing a role), we should get the weapon to score some hits.

Ideally the three controllers composing a "single squid unit" should fire at the same moment, and the squids should hit the water more or less in the same point and at the same time than their dummy counterparts. For this reason it could be handy setting the dummy hedgehogs as visible before release.

What do you think? Might it work?

LGN1 · 09-25-16, 02:38 PM

Hi gap,

it's great that you are still thinking about the mod!

I think your idea could work, however, you would still get 24 DCs per barrel.

The hedgehog controller always fires 24 times (i.e., 24 muzzle flashes, 24 sounds,...). At least I could never find a way to reduce this number and therefore, I could never have less than 24 objects spawned. I tried with random spawn rates,... but never succeeded

Best, LGN1

gap · 09-25-16, 04:33 PM

Hi LGN1,
that's unfortunate

Despite the hedgehog thrower laucnhing 24 charges, I was hoping that each lauch triggered only one flash. If 24 flashes are played every time, indeed there is no way that my idea can work, as we would end with 3 x 24 charges.

The wpn_cannon controller let us to set how many muzzles/shells are fired by a given gun, and event their 3D position relative to the model, but this over-simplified hedgehog controller gives us little chances of mimicking the squid laucher behaviour.

Being the stubborn guy that I am, I have one more question though. When you experimented with the squid laucher set as a K-gun, did the AI shoot at submerged targets which were on front of the depth-charging vessel (but just too short/too long), or it kept firing on targets which were on her side? If the first option was true, there would still be hopes that we can set the squid mortar to fire three visible shells with some degree of succes, by using the K-gun controller with particle-generated charges or a combinetion of the K-gun and of the hedgehog controllers.

Jeff-Groves · 09-25-16, 05:30 PM

Do an experiment.

Set a node way out front of the ship and assign the DC rack to it.

If you look at how a node is set for a DC rack? It's way forward of the actual rack in Game.
Is this a built in delay we can take advantage of?

makman94 · 02-14-16, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gap

At last!

I finished modelling the squid laucher. Now it is time to unwrap it. Creating a good UV map can be a boring task, but it shouldn't take as long as the modelling part.

thats ,absolutelly, wonderfull work here

thank you Gap

LGN1 · 02-14-16, 02:24 PM

Hi gap,

absolutely great work

I'm looking forward to seeing the finished launcher!

Best, LGN1

02-11-16, 04:18 PM	#1
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	At last! I finished modelling the squid laucher. Now it is time to unwrap it. Creating a good UV map can be a boring task, but it shouldn't take as long as the modelling part. __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/ Last edited by gap; 05-05-20 at 07:32 AM.

02-12-16, 04:16 AM	#2
tomfon Grey Wolf Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CK7662 Posts: 918 Downloads: 178 Uploads: 4	Wow! Great work, gap!!!! __________________ "I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers which can't be questioned." - Richard P. Feynman [1918/1988] "I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan "You don't even care. That's how much an impact the three-point shot has and it's evidenced by how everybody plays... There's no basketball anymore, there's no beauty in it. It's pretty boring. But it is what it is and you need to work with it." - Greg Popovich Mods for SH3

09-22-16, 04:48 PM	#7
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Just a thought... Today I was re-thinking about this mod and the way to bypass the limitations of the hedgehog controller that we need to use if we want the AI to fire the new weapon correctly. What if add three dummy nodes to the launcher model (one for each of the three muzzles, each aligned with the main axis of its respective barrel) and we attach an individual wpn_Hedgehog controller to each of them? We could then equip the controllers with dummy and invisible hedgehog projectiles, and set the weapon to use a modified fire_effect particle generator which will spawn a motion-aligned squid projectile (as done for the AI torpedos). Given the different alignment of the three nodes, and by setting appropriately the starting velocity of each charge (this would require the use of three slightly different particle effects, one for each barrel/projectile), I think we could obtain a triangular lauch pattern ca. 250 m in front of the ship, similar to the one created by the real squids. By further fine-tuning DC's speed and the max_range and diameter properties of each contoller (but also the the fall_speed, detonate_depth and depth_precison of the dummy hedgehog and of the sqid projectiles are playing a role), we should get the weapon to score some hits. Ideally the three controllers composing a "single squid unit" should fire at the same moment, and the squids should hit the water more or less in the same point and at the same time than their dummy counterparts. For this reason it could be handy setting the dummy hedgehogs as visible before release. What do you think? Might it work? __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

09-25-16, 04:33 PM	#9
gap Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: CJ8937 Posts: 8,215 Downloads: 793 Uploads: 10	Hi LGN1, that's unfortunate Despite the hedgehog thrower laucnhing 24 charges, I was hoping that each lauch triggered only one flash. If 24 flashes are played every time, indeed there is no way that my idea can work, as we would end with 3 x 24 charges. The wpn_cannon controller let us to set how many muzzles/shells are fired by a given gun, and event their 3D position relative to the model, but this over-simplified hedgehog controller gives us little chances of mimicking the squid laucher behaviour. Being the stubborn guy that I am, I have one more question though. When you experimented with the squid laucher set as a K-gun, did the AI shoot at submerged targets which were on front of the depth-charging vessel (but just too short/too long), or it kept firing on targets which were on her side? If the first option was true, there would still be hopes that we can set the squid mortar to fire three visible shells with some degree of succes, by using the K-gun controller with particle-generated charges or a combinetion of the K-gun and of the hedgehog controllers. __________________ _____________________ \|May the Force be with you!\| ...\/

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02-12-16, 06:57 AM	#3
Fahnenbohn Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: France Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 155 Uploads: 0	This is just perfect mate. Next part is the animation for the projectiles...

02-12-16, 09:21 AM	#4
Anvar1061 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: In the sea, on land and above Posts: 3,487 Downloads: 878 Uploads: 0	SSS

02-12-16, 10:37 AM	#5
SquareSteelBar Sea Lord Join Date: May 2006 Location: U-73 Posts: 1,638 Downloads: 632 Uploads: 0	The World According to Gap

09-25-16, 02:38 PM	#8
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi gap, it's great that you are still thinking about the mod! I think your idea could work, however, you would still get 24 DCs per barrel. The hedgehog controller always fires 24 times (i.e., 24 muzzle flashes, 24 sounds,...). At least I could never find a way to reduce this number and therefore, I could never have less than 24 objects spawned. I tried with random spawn rates,... but never succeeded Best, LGN1

09-25-16, 05:30 PM	#10
Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,654 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Do an experiment. Set a node way out front of the ship and assign the DC rack to it. If you look at how a node is set for a DC rack? It's way forward of the actual rack in Game. Is this a built in delay we can take advantage of?

02-14-16, 02:24 PM	#12
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	Hi gap, absolutely great work I'm looking forward to seeing the finished launcher! Best, LGN1