Breaking Oregon Militia Occupies Federal Building

[kraznyi_oktjabr]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I think using fire for any kind of large scale agricultural purpose is just asking for trouble. It's far too easy for a fire to spread out of control, just ask California.

It has been used for (atleast) centuries with not too much trouble... and still is in Russia (couple of years ago winds blew smoke to Finnish side of border, all the way to Central Finland).

If you are dumb enough to use it on places dry like a dust (California has major drought problem, hasn't it?) then you really deserve what you get.

[eddie]

Even other militia leaders don't agree with what they are doing!

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-or...0UJ04120160105

[Torplexed]

If one wants a precedent for a peaceful end, back in 1969 a native American group occupied the then abandoned penitentiary at Alcatraz for 19 months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Alcatraz

By late May, the government had cut off all electrical power and all telephone service to the island. In June, a fire of disputed origin destroyed numerous buildings on the island. Left without power, fresh water, and in the face of diminishing public support and sympathy, the number of occupiers began to dwindle. On June 11, 1971, a large force of government officers removed the remaining 15 people from the island.

The power has already been cut at the far chillier Malheur Wildlife Refuge. I guess we'll see if history rhymes.

[vienna]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

If one wants a precedent for a peaceful end, back in 1969 a native American group occupied the then abandoned penitentiary at Alcatraz for 19 months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupation_of_Alcatraz

The power has already been cut at the far chillier Malheur Wildlife Refuge. I guess we'll see if history rhymes.

Heard a news report on the local CBS radio affiliate some of the militia members are starting to gripe about the whole mess because they have lives to get back to, jobs, etc., and they don't seem to share the sentiments of an occupation 'till the end' of the Bundy's and they, unlike the Bundy's, don't have monetary support coming in from supporters elsewhere. Also, the locals, many, if not most, of whom either work for the various government agencies or have businesses dependent on government interaction are making rumblings about not cooperating with the occupiers by refusing to sell them food or other items they may need or want. It looks as if the wheels are starting to come off...


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[Oberon]

Originally Posted by vienna

Heard a news report on the local CBS radio affiliate some of the militia members are starting to gripe about the whole mess because they have lives to get back to, jobs, etc., and they don't seem to share the sentiments of an occupation 'till the end' of the Bundy's and they, unlike the Bundy's, don't have monetary support coming in from supporters elsewhere. Also, the locals, many, if not most, of whom either work for the various government agencies or have businesses dependent on government interaction are making rumblings about not cooperating with the occupiers by refusing to sell them food or other items they may need or want. It looks as if the wheels are starting to come off...


<O>

The nuts do definitely seem to be coming loose...

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/oreg...by-informants/

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...k-it-up-and-go

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...edentials.html

http://www.breakingburgh.com/enraged...awn-offensive/

[vienna]

Yep, drunkenly brawling amongst themselves, threatening death to the families of public public officials, lying about their "achievements", these are truly the cream of the American crop and a true asset to the American way of life and its values. Why, we should all be very proud they carry our flag...

Brings to mind another group of great Americans who also strove to impose their "ideals" by armed confrontation; hell, they even made a fuss about their right to bear arms:





(Black Panther Party on the steps of the Washington State Capitol, 1969)...

Aside from the color, not a lot of difference...



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[August]

Some right wing terrorists these chumps turned out to be!

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

It has been used for (atleast) centuries with not too much trouble... and still is in Russia (couple of years ago winds blew smoke to Finnish side of border, all the way to Central Finland).

If you are dumb enough to use it on places dry like a dust (California has major drought problem, hasn't it?) then you really deserve what you get.

Well, true, I guess it depends on the landscape and the climate. A place like Oregon you could probably get away with it, but of course, how do you stop a fire from spreading beyond your land?
It does seem rather OTT the sentencing, and I can understand the protest that took place in the town, but the Bundys hitching up their anti-government agenda to it really hasn't helped the Hammonds at all. If anything it's probably made their chances worse.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by kraznyi_oktjabr

It has been used for (atleast) centuries with not too much trouble... and still is in Russia (couple of years ago winds blew smoke to Finnish side of border, all the way to Central Finland).

If you are dumb enough to use it on places dry like a dust (California has major drought problem, hasn't it?) then you really deserve what you get.

One way or another it's going to happen. Either humans do it in a controlled manner. Or mother nature will with a lighting strike and that usually ends up catching everyone off guard.