Turkey shoots down Russian aircraft.

[mapuc]

Heard of this "accident" on the 5 o´clock news my first thought wasn't Oh God now we will not be celebrating Christmas. No it was-wonder what all these "expert" will write on different FB-pages

Somehow people have already taken a standpoint.

I don't know what's up and down in this story, I which both part of this would let an independent group investigate this.

If the plane was inside Turkeys airspace or not a.s.o

Markus

[XabbaRus]

Well my wife is really peed off....She thinks Russia is going to smack down a Turkish plane when they get half the chance.

I wonder how this will affect my upcoming trip to Moscow at the new year.

[Admiral Halsey]

Has Russia given up on its ambitions for control of the Dardanelles?

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

Well my wife is really peed off....She thinks Russia is going to smack down a Turkish plane when they get half the chance.

I wonder how this will affect my upcoming trip to Moscow at the new year.

Well, if that happens, I doubt it will end there.

[AngusJS]

The Turks repeatedly complained to Russia about it violating Turkey's airspace, as recently as last Friday. It looks like Russia went one too many times to the well, and paid the price.

[ikalugin]

But yes, I think Xabbas wife is right, the next time a Turkish fighter crosses into Syria it will be fired upon, even if it just crosses over the border for a second, and neither side has a government that is capable of compromise, the Russians want blood and the Turks are too proud to back down, in their eyes the Russians shouldn't even be there.

That is what the MoD said more or less - any threats would be destroyed.

[Dmitry Markov]

So the butcher's bill at this moment:

Crew commander of Su-24 killed by those er-r-r "persons" while descending with the parachute.

A Marine shot during rescue operation in one of our helos.

Our and Syrian special forces have rescued navigation officer of Su-24 during 12-hours long operation - he is now alive, safe and more or less unharmed. Thats what our MoD said recently.

[eddie]

I have read the same thing Dmitry, glad they found the second pilot and that he is safe! But your Government has decided to send the S-400 missile system to the airbase there. Turkish jets should stay out of Syrian airspace now,lol


"Russia's defense minister says that Moscow will send its newest anti-aircraft missiles to Syria following Turkey's downing of a Russian warplane on Tuesday.
Russian news agencies on Wednesday quoted Sergei Shoigu as saying that the S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems would be sent to the Hemeimeem air base in the government-controlled area which Moscow uses for its Air Force sorties."

[Dan D]

I heard on the radio that Turkey sees itsself as the protecting power for the Turkmen minority living in Syria.

There have been attacks lately by Assad troops with Russian air support against the Turkmen, who oppose the Assad regime.

A Turkmen leader was quoted saying they could fight Assad's troops successfully like they did in the past but that they can do nothing against the Russian air strikes.

So it seems that Turkey shot down the aircraft to show Russia that it does not tolerate actions against Turkmen in Syria.

Btw, no one seems to care about the Kurdish people in this conflict who live as minorities in Turkey, Syria, Iran and Irak. They are stuck between hammer and amboss.