Terrorist attack in Paris, France - Page 13

Betonov · 11-19-15, 09:32 AM

Is it easier to breathe on this planet, or is there one less scumbag using up oxygen

CaptainRamius · 11-19-15, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Is it easier to breathe on this planet, or is there one less scumbag using up oxygen

I think the latter. I'm so glad that France sent out the Charles De Gaulle, ISIS could really use a "Omlette de Fromage" right about now

Armistead · 11-19-15, 10:55 AM

Noticed on CNN reporting that many in the neighborhood knew the ring leader was there in the area and even did morning prayer in mosque, yet no one reported it as we know. The reporter said they became very defensive when asked why they didn't report.

Oberon · 11-19-15, 11:57 AM

Well, no-one wants to be a grass, especially when there are people with ears everywhere who would be willing to give up your ID so that a friendly man with a knife can visit you in the small hours.

It's like gang warfare, snitches get stitches.

Moonlight · 11-19-15, 01:59 PM

Haven't they heard of what an anonymous phone call is then, of course they have but they choose to stay silent, and the operative word here is choose.

mapuc · 11-19-15, 02:09 PM

On Danish TV they said

The Parisians are happy, disappointed and mad

Happy that the most wanted person for this attack is dead
But are also
Disappointed that the police didn't get him alive, so they could ask him things

Mad-because the agencies said he was in Syria and now it turned out he was in Paris(France)

Oberon · 11-19-15, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

Haven't they heard of what an anonymous phone call is then, of course they have but they choose to stay silent, and the operative word here is choose.

Doesn't always work that way, if it was that easy then more gangbangers would be getting pulled, wouldn't they?

Jimbuna · 11-20-15, 07:40 AM

It usually takes a very brave or stupid person to lift their heads above the parapets.

Fear can be a great leveller.

eddie · 11-21-15, 04:52 PM

Nice to see this rally from Muslims, especially in Paris. And it seems it was well received there too.

http://news.yahoo.com/french-muslim-...165741864.html

Rockstar · 11-21-15, 11:41 PM

Just an FYI, I did the math. Warning I suck at math. But, I added up some numbers

According to the F.B.I. in 2013 there were 1,163,146 violent crimes and 14,196 murders reported in the U.S. Keep in mind thats just one year. The good news is these rates have been consistently dropping.

According to the Global Terrorism Database http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/ . From 1970 to 2014 there have been approximately 2,660 incidents of terrorism and 3,472 related deaths in the U.S. in the last 40 years.

Just thought Id pass that along.

good night all

Stealhead · 11-22-15, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Just an FYI, I did the math. Warning I suck at math. But, I added up some numbers

According to the F.B.I. in 2013 there were 1,163,146 violent crimes and 14,196 murders reported in the U.S. Keep in mind thats just one year. The good news is these rates have been consistently dropping.

According to the Global Terrorism Database http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/ . From 1970 to 2014 there have been approximately 2,660 incidents of terrorism and 3,472 related deaths in the U.S. in the last 40 years.

Just thought Id pass that along.

good night all

I wonder what the criteria is for the terror one was? Are those Americans killed by terror acts? In the US only or also Americans killed outside the US? If so I say the number is wrong as it should higher. The deadliest incident would be September 11 2001 second would be the Marine barracks bombing and I recon third would be the USS Cole bombing last would be the embassy bombings in 98 though those killed mostly local Africans last would be Kobar Towers the rest would be Americans killed in other acts. Heck maybe they number is right but I feel that is low by perhaps 100 or 200.

I recon that you are saying that as a whole you are pretty unlikely to die or even be injured or event personally witness an act of terror. Heck your chance of being the victim of any violent crime is fairly low.

Oberon · 11-22-15, 08:15 AM

Rockstar makes a good point and one that I'm sure I've mentioned before, or if I haven't then I should have done. You're far more likely to die in a car accident than through an act of terror. Of course, that doesn't mean that we should be lax in our vigilance, but equally we should overreact and panic in response to an individual act of terror.
I must admit, I don't understand the decision of the French parliament to extend the state of emergency for another three months, other than to give increased powers to the police forces to act without judicial oversight.

A month I could understand, or to the end of the year, so that Christmas and New Years are over...but up till February?

Probably just me, I just get a smidge of concern when governments bypass the judicial system, even if it's in the interest of 'dealing with terrorism', however such a thing is defined.

Rockstar · 11-22-15, 08:16 AM

You can break down the search by country. It showed Aden, Yemen where the USS Cole incident happened and 35 U.S. sailors were killed Oct 12 2000. Therefore I'm fairly certain the numbers I added up are fatalities which occured in the U.S. only.

Also those numbers are directly related to attacks. Death due to mental or physical health issues arising after the fact are not included.

Rockstar · 11-22-15, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

Rockstar makes a good point and one that I'm sure I've mentioned before, or if I haven't then I should have done. You're far more likely to die in a car accident than through an act of terror. Of course, that doesn't mean that we should be lax in our vigilance, but equally we should overreact and panic in response to an individual act of terror.
I must admit, I don't understand the decision of the French parliament to extend the state of emergency for another three months, other than to give increased powers to the police forces to act without judicial oversight.

A month I could understand, or to the end of the year, so that Christmas and New Years are over...but up till February?

Probably just me, I just get a smidge of concern when governments bypass the judicial system, even if it's in the interest of 'dealing with terrorism', however such a thing is defined.

Apparently the attacks caught a lot of officials completly off guard. Extending the state of emergency was probably done to help the French government security services maintain some order while they fix whats broke.

Oberon · 11-22-15, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Apparently the attacks caught a lot of officials completly off guard. Extending the state of emergency was probably done to help the French government security services maintain some order while they fix whats broke.

That makes sense, I mean Hollande doesn't strike me as the type that would try anything dodgy, but...well...politicians.

11-19-15, 10:55 AM	#183
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Noticed on CNN reporting that many in the neighborhood knew the ring leader was there in the area and even did morning prayer in mosque, yet no one reported it as we know. The reporter said they became very defensive when asked why they didn't report. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

11-19-15, 01:59 PM	#185
Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,548 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Haven't they heard of what an anonymous phone call is then, of course they have but they choose to stay silent, and the operative word here is choose. __________________

11-20-15, 07:40 AM	#188
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,537 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	It usually takes a very brave or stupid person to lift their heads above the parapets. Fear can be a great leveller. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

11-21-15, 04:52 PM	#189
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Nice to see this rally from Muslims, especially in Paris. And it seems it was well received there too. http://news.yahoo.com/french-muslim-...165741864.html __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

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11-19-15, 09:32 AM	#181
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Is it easier to breathe on this planet, or is there one less scumbag using up oxygen

11-19-15, 11:57 AM	#184
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Well, no-one wants to be a grass, especially when there are people with ears everywhere who would be willing to give up your ID so that a friendly man with a knife can visit you in the small hours. It's like gang warfare, snitches get stitches.

11-19-15, 02:09 PM	#186
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,660 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	On Danish TV they said The Parisians are happy, disappointed and mad Happy that the most wanted person for this attack is dead But are also Disappointed that the police didn't get him alive, so they could ask him things Mad-because the agencies said he was in Syria and now it turned out he was in Paris(France)

11-21-15, 11:41 PM	#190
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Just an FYI, I did the math. Warning I suck at math. But, I added up some numbers According to the F.B.I. in 2013 there were 1,163,146 violent crimes and 14,196 murders reported in the U.S. Keep in mind thats just one year. The good news is these rates have been consistently dropping. According to the Global Terrorism Database http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/ . From 1970 to 2014 there have been approximately 2,660 incidents of terrorism and 3,472 related deaths in the U.S. in the last 40 years. Just thought Id pass that along. good night all

11-22-15, 08:15 AM	#192
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Rockstar makes a good point and one that I'm sure I've mentioned before, or if I haven't then I should have done. You're far more likely to die in a car accident than through an act of terror. Of course, that doesn't mean that we should be lax in our vigilance, but equally we should overreact and panic in response to an individual act of terror. I must admit, I don't understand the decision of the French parliament to extend the state of emergency for another three months, other than to give increased powers to the police forces to act without judicial oversight. A month I could understand, or to the end of the year, so that Christmas and New Years are over...but up till February? Probably just me, I just get a smidge of concern when governments bypass the judicial system, even if it's in the interest of 'dealing with terrorism', however such a thing is defined.

11-22-15, 08:16 AM	#193
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	You can break down the search by country. It showed Aden, Yemen where the USS Cole incident happened and 35 U.S. sailors were killed Oct 12 2000. Therefore I'm fairly certain the numbers I added up are fatalities which occured in the U.S. only. Also those numbers are directly related to attacks. Death due to mental or physical health issues arising after the fact are not included.