Europe's migrant problem

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

I love Finlands approach to this. Sipila has got my vote.

Not that well received here. The guy is a millionaire, he could do much more than offer one of his unused homes to 20 refugees and asking everyone (=those not fortunate enough to own multiple homes) to do the same.

At the very least, he could offer the house immediately for use, but for some reason it is postponed to early 2016. Interesting to see if he actually does it or if he hopes no one will remember his promise come January.

[Betonov]

OK, let's see what the media morons are selling us.

As of now there's 4000 migrants waiting at the Slovene-Austrian border.
Constant flow to the Slovene-Croatian border.
Police numbers show that about 73 000 migrants entered Slovenia and 48 000 already left the country.
Slovenia requests 10 million euros in aid and will receive a contingnet of 400 cops from the rest of the EU.

We are still here, the country still stands, unfortunately no churches have been destroyed and fortunately no mosques were built, incidents are few in between and there have been 0 beheadings or other fatalities.
But I live on a farm so I can't really confirm that half the country isn't ablaze yet.

[Jimbuna]

Conditions for the migrants are yet to get considerably worse....winter is fast approaching.

[Betonov]

Heated tents and donated winter clothing are there. But not in the number needed.
Brussels will have to jump in.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Heated tents and donated winter clothing are there. But not in the number needed.
Brussels will have to jump in.

Brussels eh?

Heaven help the migrants then.

[Betonov]

Maybe, just maybe, things are mostly under control becasue Brussels hasn't lifted a finger yet

[Betonov]

Slovenia considers setting up ''technicall barriers'' on borders. Which can be anything but a fence or wall. Probably just those event fences we have on every hockey game or a police line tape. To coerce the masses into set routes, mostly to keep them in a safe zone and out of populated areas.

The Rigonce crossing is now emptied, all migrants were moved by bus or train into Sentilj center. The Croats have agreed to send trains to Dobova, where logistics is a lot better than Rigonce.

The pictures show a worrying amount of people that move in a suprisingly orderly organised fashion.


No straglers, no ''looting parties'', no assualts... Some incidents between individuals, expected in a large group of people, incidents cooled down by the migrants themselves before the police has to intervene.




Migrant registration


Fear of a disease outbreak is not excluded. The biggest problem is local population infecting the migrants. It is cold and flu season here.

Croatian authorities are sending us heads up on the numbers arriving but an agreement can't be reached for a fixed number they would send from theirs centers. It seems they just fill the trains and que serra serra.

PM Cerar also stated, that if the EU does not held up it's end of the issue, we will be forced to take more firm measures. I hope that means loading up trains headed to Brussels.

Here's the interesting part. Since October 17th a 100 000 migrants arrived in Slovenia which makes one migrant per 20 Slovenes. And yet, the country does not burn.

[Betonov]

And they seem to leave behind un-natural amounts of trash
My god

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Dowly

"I am proud to be European" - said the evil, racist, homophobe, white, intolerant, right-wing, hateful antisemitic supremacist Nazi oppressor

Yes, the allied second world war propaganda is still alive, and is leading Europe to destruction...

I fear this is the end of civilization in Europe.

Don't you understand ? Europa is dead.

Let's be with God, and God be with us

F.

[mapuc]

Can't say IF, Its more a when, we will see some kind of "Berlin-wall" around the border in Greece Italy etc

Hungary have made some kind of wall, Austria has made some temporary wall and now Slovenia has made some type of wall

Therefore I guess its the first step to wards such a wall.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Markus

[Fahnenbohn]

One thing is clear for me : I don't want to live with them in my country. They are not from my culture, they are not from my race. In Europe, we have the military power to defend ourselves from invasion, but we don't have the courage to live as free men. We prefer material comfort and hobbies ...

Stop being capitalism slaves !

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Slovenia has made some type of wall

We made no wall.
We made barriers to easily lead migrants into control points and registration centers.
These barriers can be anything from a riot fence you see in hockey games to 2 sticks with a police tape strung in between.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Don't you understand ? Europa is dead.

I would tend to agree. The EU has finally shown it's true face. Most countries have no interest in helping out or showing solidarity with the nations that take in refugees. Solidarity is obviously supposed to be just a one way road payed for by Germany and a few others.
Even the most pink glassed EU fanatic should now realize that it has always just been an illusion. The hearts and minds of most have never been in it.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by Betonov

We made no wall.
We made barriers to easily lead migrants into control points and registration centers.
These barriers can be anything from a riot fence you see in hockey games to 2 sticks with a police tape strung in between.

Sorry I should have read your post a little more and have written
''technicall barriers''

Markus

[Betonov]

the difference between a wall and technical barrier is that a child can push it away and a dog can jump over.
Without a police force behind it they're nothing more than decoration.
Or in this case a waypoint.