Europe's migrant problem

[ikalugin]

Except if I fly the flag of some Navy and thus become extraterritorial object.

Anywhere I could read about that EU legislation?

[Betonov]

Even then.
If you're smuggleng even the US flag wont help you.

You need to make the boat pass safety regulations, charge them for transport, issue receipts and become a cruise company.

[Bilge_Rat]

a map which really summarizes the problem well:



there may be 350,000 in Europe, but 4,000,000 other refugees are in the ME, so the number of refugees in Europe could easily double or triple in the next years.

The most effective way to resolve the refugee problem is to put an end to the Syrian/ISIS crisis.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...e-isis/410746/

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

there may be 350,000 in Europe, but 4,000,000 other refugees are in the ME, so the number of refugees in Europe could easily double or triple in the next years.

It is estimated that Germany will have taken one million refugees by the end of the year. We sometimes get more than 10.000 refugees per day. So the numbers in that picture seem to be highly outdated and the time period stops just when the big wave started moving.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

It is estimated that Germany will have taken one million refugees by the end of the year. We sometimes get more than 10.000 refugees per day.

Some days ago there was the existence of an internal paper confirmed saying that the government knows that already now we are far beyond the 1 million mark.

And people scramble for Germany from more and more regions in africa that are not linked to the Syrian conflict at all.

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If there is one thing positive coming from all this, then that it drives deep rifts into the EU and erodes its internal structures, making it hopefully more prone to collapse one day. I hope the Eastern states stay resolute. Ironically, I hope the election results in Poland also mean more troubles for the EU and Germany.

But maybe the EU's fall is less a collapse as an event, but a hard death by long-term erosion. Not so much a quick bullet through the head, but a slow death by cancer.

[Skybird]

That numbers are meaningless and are not even close to what really goes on. Hopelessly outdated, if ever having been true at all. See that the right graphic even reads "2011-summer 2014" - before Merkel announced her invitation to all world to come to germany.

Multiply the number of Syrian refugees and economic migrants fro other countries by several factors.

Several factors.

Then consider that those who are given permission to stay, by that get the right to bring in their families (wives, husbands, children) as well. Increase the total number of staying newcomers again by several factors, due to that.

Germany alone now is beyond the 1 million mark already - form this year alone. The government supresses the real numbers. Police got ordered to hide from the public and media the number of problems and incidents where police has to intervene in facilities as well. Since nothing gets done to stop this mess and Merkel as usuall just sits and swings the propaganda hammer and so more will come, for the following years several millions are expected: more refugees, more migrants, and families being called in by those who can stay.

Of those who cannot stay, a huge number nevertheless gets tolerated to stay for longer periods of time.

Merkel does what she always does best: nothing, babbling empty phrases, and allow problems to pile up. All the time laws, treaties and constitutional rules mean nothing to her. As always, she thinks she is above all that.

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Some facts about Merkel that foreigners and even most Germans do not know. She has risen to high ranks in the former GDR within the youth Organisation FdJ, making it to the top ranks of it'S office for agitation and propaganda. She had a special permission to travel abroad (only loyal regime members and sympathisers got that), she was involved in spying on civil regime critics, namely Robert Havemann, and most likely therefore was spying for the StaSi, was an informant of the StaSi. She furiously engages in legal sanctions against media and journalists reporting on that, like Gregor Gysi does, a known name ove rher ein Germany, former head of the far left in the parliament and also a striong sympathiser of the SED and GDR system, also an informant for the StaSi as well (even a court ruled that he was that, he nevertheless charges everybody refering to that court sentence and makes so much noise about it in threats and actions that most people do not dare to challenge him on his spying past).

In other words: Merkel was an established and benefitting member of the regime'S inner personnel circle, enjoying privileges and opportunistically hanging her banner according to the wind'S direction. She was allowed to study at an elitist academy of the regime, and politically became an expert trained in propaganda, and agitation as they calledf it in the GDR.

She is an underhanded opportunistic fat cat and "Parteibonze" whose mind has enough room for only wo things: "herself, and her power.

The claim risen that she acts on grounds of humanitarian considerations, is not just absurd, but an offence for the many victims of the past regime and the immense collateral damage she now causes in Germany in the past ten years. Merkel never has solved anything. She just sits still and flattens everybody until he cannot breathe anymore. She does so with the EU. Wioth the Euro. With our problems with the "Energiewende". Infrastructure. And now the mass migration he has directly triggered. All for securing her in office.

Considering her for the peace nobel prize this year not only once again is a massive abuse of Nobel'S foundation, but is so absurd and so malicious that I almost wanted to spit on the TV screen when they announced that possibility first time.

A joke over here says Merkel is Erich Honnecker's late revenge on the BRD (FRG). But the point is - that is no joke. It simply is the truth. Merkel is the most successful turncoat in Europe after the collapse of the Eastern order. And most Germans have no clue of it at all.

The germans have learned nothing.

[ikalugin]

Thanks.