19-year old german girl's entry into US refused

Catfish · 08-06-15, 02:53 PM

What we know is quite simple and evident, and there is no need to whitewash or sugarcoat it.

Everything on the net is being read, and those spying eyes pass the information on to all kinds of organisations.

So you better look out what you say or write, because we know that all kinds of things happen to people, even if there is no evidence at all for any wongdoing.
(You probably also know that people abroad are killed with drones by self-appointed judges through interpretation of metadata like certain behaviour schemes alone, not evidence. Just saying the truth or being an average citizen with no terroristic background does not help you)

Anyone remembers Neal's site was banned for Google adverts, because they found the word esc0rt serv!ce somewhere in this forum. Harmless, of course.

Apart from that, the way this woman was treated and threatened, beggars all description. When asking whether she would be allowed to sleep a bit before taking the next plane home (after 18 hours of flight and 24 more hours of harsh interrogation) the answer was "Yes, in jail".

NeonSamurai · 08-06-15, 06:54 PM

They either searched for her profile on Facebook (not uncommon if the officer is suspicious). That or they searched her phone (also very common now). Even though there was no mention of payment, just speaking of doing work that could entail payment can be enough.

I can't speak about how she was treated, as I can't read German well and haven't seen anything in English about it. It does sound though like they did treat her very poorly. Also they should have to explain why they did what they did.

mapuc · 08-06-15, 07:05 PM

This is a story from the beginning of the 80s

My elder sisters boyfriend who was a German had made some travel to East Germany and even Russia, if I remember correctly.

Some years later they toke a vacation trip to USA(New York)

When the border Police toke a look at the boyfriends passport, they went totally berserk

He was under interrogation some hours.

All the time he kept on saying-It is in my job to travel we have a contract with Companies in East Germany and Russia.

Sorry for this off topic story

Markus

August · 08-06-15, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

This is a story from the beginning of the 80s

My elder sisters boyfriend who was a German had made some travel to East Germany and even Russia, if I remember correctly.

Some years later they toke a vacation trip to USA(New York)

When the border Police toke a look at the boyfriends passport, they went totally berserk

He was under interrogation some hours.

All the time he kept on saying-It is in my job to travel we have a contract with Companies in East Germany and Russia.

Sorry for this off topic story

Markus

I guess you have never heard of the famous KGB assassin known only as "The Dane"...

Stealhead · 08-06-15, 08:36 PM

Being a German fearing American I'd absolutely refuse a nineteen year old German woman entry. She was probably going to spread German humour in the homeland.

August · 08-06-15, 09:40 PM

Yeah next thing you know our women shop shaving their armpits and start bossing everyone around. The horror!

Schroeder · 08-07-15, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Being a German fearing American I'd absolutely refuse a nineteen year old German woman entry. She was probably going to spread German humour in the homeland.

You can't fight what you can't see and you can't spread what doesn't exist. You argument therefore is invalid.

mapuc · 08-07-15, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I guess you have never heard of the famous KGB assassin known only as "The Dane"...

To stay off topic

Yes my sister is a Danish citizen, but her boyfriend, who was under interrogation because of some stamp in his passport-stamp with words like DDR and possibly Soviet, is a genuine German citizen

Today we know why.(NO he was not a KGB-spy or something)

Markus

Mr Quatro · 08-07-15, 06:01 PM

Maybe her sauer was kraut ...

Jeff-Groves · 08-07-15, 06:04 PM

Can't let a 19 year old German Girl in the U.S.A.
All the 19 year old spaces are filled by Mexicains.

Catfish · 08-07-15, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Maybe her sauer was kraut ...

I don't think so, she was only nineteen..

Platapus · 08-08-15, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

Maybe her sauer was kraut ...

Brilliant! No matter which order the words are used, it is still funny.. and practically dirty.

Onkel Neal · 08-12-15, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

Anyone remembers Neal's site was banned for Google adverts, because they found the word esc0rt serv!ce somewhere in this forum. Harmless, of course.

Why did you have to remind me!?

I'm still crying over that!

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08-06-15, 02:53 PM	#1
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,779 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	What we know is quite simple and evident, and there is no need to whitewash or sugarcoat it. Everything on the net is being read, and those spying eyes pass the information on to all kinds of organisations. So you better look out what you say or write, because we know that all kinds of things happen to people, even if there is no evidence at all for any wongdoing. (You probably also know that people abroad are killed with drones by self-appointed judges through interpretation of metadata like certain behaviour schemes alone, not evidence. Just saying the truth or being an average citizen with no terroristic background does not help you) Anyone remembers Neal's site was banned for Google adverts, because they found the word esc0rt serv!ce somewhere in this forum. Harmless, of course. Apart from that, the way this woman was treated and threatened, beggars all description. When asking whether she would be allowed to sleep a bit before taking the next plane home (after 18 hours of flight and 24 more hours of harsh interrogation) the answer was "Yes, in jail". __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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NeonSamurai Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Socialist Republic of Kanadia Posts: 3,044 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	They either searched for her profile on Facebook (not uncommon if the officer is suspicious). That or they searched her phone (also very common now). Even though there was no mention of payment, just speaking of doing work that could entail payment can be enough. I can't speak about how she was treated, as I can't read German well and haven't seen anything in English about it. It does sound though like they did treat her very poorly. Also they should have to explain why they did what they did. __________________ SH3 Newbie Guide Links and other helpfull stuff

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,217 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah next thing you know our women shop shaving their armpits and start bossing everyone around. The horror! __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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08-06-15, 07:05 PM	#3
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,543 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	This is a story from the beginning of the 80s My elder sisters boyfriend who was a German had made some travel to East Germany and even Russia, if I remember correctly. Some years later they toke a vacation trip to USA(New York) When the border Police toke a look at the boyfriends passport, they went totally berserk He was under interrogation some hours. All the time he kept on saying-It is in my job to travel we have a contract with Companies in East Germany and Russia. Sorry for this off topic story Markus

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Being a German fearing American I'd absolutely refuse a nineteen year old German woman entry. She was probably going to spread German humour in the homeland.

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Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Maybe her sauer was kraut ...

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Jeff-Groves GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 5,654 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	Can't let a 19 year old German Girl in the U.S.A. All the 19 year old spaces are filled by Mexicains.