SH1 is working!

[Major Johnson]

Originally Posted by aanker

I have SHCE, PA, and SH4 v1.5 running on this Win 7 64 bit, in different directories on the same drive. SHCE runs through DOSBox, and Pacific Aces (SH II) and SH4 run through their respective Windows installers. I have never had a conflict.

Ruling that out leaves the Operating system, the graphics card, and the DOSBox SH1 configuration as main suspects for your issue. Are you using a frontend for DOSBox on SHCE?

So, what Windows operating system and graphics card do you have? Also, there are many instructions for installing SHCE in old posts on SUBSIM in this forum, on other websites on the the internet, and I'm curious what install procedure instructions you used on DOSBox to get SHCE running - if any?

Maybe you're a computer Guru and the installs were easy, and you're familiar with 'everything'.... I don't know : )

I know, so many questions, I'm sorry.

Questions are good!! It's better than no response at all!!

DOS Box: Yes

Operating System: Win7 Pro
Graphics card is listed in my sig.

I wouldn't say I'm a computer guru, but I have built my own pcs since my first compaq with Win95. Building your own is cheaper and you know what you got. I've never had a problem with Nvidia cards.

I'm sure my problem is something stupid.

[akula65]

Per McBeck's site circa 2007:

Bug: SH has locked up on me several times if I go to the chart screen while at the periscope screen with the ship ID book pulled up. I've never locked it up any other way. This bug cost me a shot at the Yamato and a number of other ships. It's hard sometimes to remember to change back to the gauges before leaving the periscope screen when you're closing a ship and every second counts...

https://web.archive.org/web/20070610.../bugs/bugs.htm

[aanker]

Originally Posted by Major Johnson

So after installing PA and getting it to run correctly, I find that in SH1 when I try to activate the Charts by either pressing F5 or clicking on Charts I get a CTD. Anyone else ever come across this??

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Originally Posted by Major Johnson

Questions are good!! It's better than no response at all!!

DOS Box: Yes

Operating System: Win7 Pro
Graphics card is listed in my sig.

I wouldn't say I'm a computer guru, but I have built my own pcs since my first compaq with Win95. Building your own is cheaper and you know what you got. I've never had a problem with Nvidia cards.

I'm sure my problem is something stupid.

You're not running both SHCE & PA at the same time and Alt Tabbing between them, ------ "no"....

Were there re-boots between installing the two (3) games (SHCE, SH II & PA) and after installing the SH II & PA patches, to clear the computer?

I can't figure out why pressing F5 makes SHCE CTD...

A friend has seen everything SHCE, I'm going to ask him if he has ever heard of this.

Edit -
We both are thinking that as long as we have played SHCE, neither of us can remember it crashing on any operating system from DOS 3.11 through the Windows versions, to today.

So, it seems there is probably a corrupt install & configuration of each. Recommend uninstalling SHCE & DOSBox, then a fresh install of DOSBox and then reinstall SHCE doing a FULL install.

[Major Johnson]

FYI, I reinstalled SHCE last night and now all is well. No more CTD from pressing F5 or clicking on Charts in the control room. I promptly started a career and got my ass hammered by 5 destroyers and 2 dive bombers while trying to pull off a photo mission in daylight. I'm a little rusty to say the least!!

[aanker]

Originally Posted by Major Johnson

FYI, I reinstalled SHCE last night and now all is well. No more CTD from pressing F5 or clicking on Charts in the control room. I promptly started a career and got my ass hammered by 5 destroyers and 2 dive bombers while trying to pull off a photo mission in daylight. I'm a little rusty to say the least!!

lol.... welcome back Captain. Excellent news you're up and running.

SHCE is still at the top of my list. I have modded my installs of SH4 to be close to actual reports, history, and SHCE when SHCE has the specs right.

I recall the DD's in SHCE, ASW for hours, being caught in the 'wagon wheel', and using depth and a low profile to eventually elude. I miss that action.

Happy Hunting!

[Trool323]

Awesome! I went down memory lane for about an hour myself tonight thanks to this post. I racked up 70,000 tons plus in one patrol and got bored. Still remember all the quick keys. lol. I still have all of hawks old add-ons to. Anyways, its easier than ever to play SH1 now on a newer system. We have to remember its 20 yrs old. SH4 gets a lot of hate from some, but for me its the holy grail after you mod it the way that you wish.

[Stoli151]

I have SH1 installed on my tablet using android OS. All you need is the dosbox app for android(about $3) and be familiar with using dos commands and it's fairly easy to do. So now I take SH1 wherever I want. I also have Master of Orion 2, the original X-Com, the original Bards tale 1,2,and 3 installed on my ASUS tab. I'm sure you could do this with a phone as well but I would only do it on a phone with a very large screen like a Samsung note or similar.

[scrapser]

Nice to see SH1 still has traction. For myself I have my copy installed on a home-built Win98SE computer along with a lot of other great sims and games from that era. I've always considered SH1 to be a direct descendant of MicroProse's "Silent Service". They both play nearly identically in terms of the controls and command screens and SH1 obviously has so much more built into it. Silent Service for the Commodore 64 was my first computer game back in 1984. 31 years ago!

[Julian]

I clicked Pisces link to SUBSOWESPAC - SHCE How to Run it with DOSBox.
I printed it out.

I have Silent Hunter Commander's Edition.
I also got the latest version of DosBox 0.74.

I followed the instructions to bring up the Command Prompt in Windows.

I placed the CD in the Cd drive and entered the current drive which was D:

Entered the line - Install X:
The Cd began to install. Just when it started to install the files,
it stopped and came up with following message:

UNSUPPORTED 16-Bit Application
The program or feature "\??\D:\SH\INSTALL.EXE" cannot start or run due to
incompatibility with 64-bit versions of Windows. Please contact the software
vendor to ask if a 64-bit Windows compatible is available.
OK

I had a previous message referring to both 64-bit and 32-bit Windows.

How can I get around to changing the application??

Thanks.

[aanker]

Did you install SHCE to a folder off the root C: and not into Program Files??

Should look like this:

C: Hard Drive
C:\GAMES
C:\GAMES\SILENT ......... #2. below:


- (graphic from subsowespac.org)

You should be starting SHCE by using DOSBox. Did you double check the settings and try to install SHCE again?

That is a strange error message I have not heard of before. So many have succeeded installing to Vista, Win 7, and even Win 8.x. I would try the install again.

[Julian]

When I bring up the Command Prompt, this is what it reads:
C:\users\user>

Whether this is a problem???
I tried to change to C:\, but it still comes up with "users\users" attached.
It recognizes the subdirectory.
That's as far as it goes until I try to install.


Other option for SH.
=============
I have come across another option regarding Silent Hunter 1.
Hopefully it will work.

When my old Windows XP computer died, a few years ago, I had, at that time, installed a lot of Dos and Windows games on the hard drive.
A friend of mine was able to save the hard drive and hook it up to my Windows 7 computer.
Now I have access to all the games and programs I had installed on it.

In my search, I found that I had installed Silent Hunter Commander Edition, along with other Dos/Window games, like Great Naval Battles North Atlantic 1939 -1943, and Wolfpack, etc.

With the the full install of Silent Hunter on my old hard drive, what steps would I need to do to get it running through DosBox???

[aanker]

Originally Posted by Julian

............ Other option for SH.
=============
I have come across another option regarding Silent Hunter 1.
Hopefully it will work.

When my old Windows XP computer died, a few years ago, I had, at that time, installed a lot of Dos and Windows games on the hard drive.
A friend of mine was able to save the hard drive and hook it up to my Windows 7 computer.
Now I have access to all the games and programs I had installed on it.

In my search, I found that I had installed Silent Hunter Commander Edition, along with other Dos/Window games, like Great Naval Battles North Atlantic 1939 -1943, and Wolfpack, etc.

With the the full install of Silent Hunter on my old hard drive, what steps would I need to do to get it running through DosBox???

This is GREAT. I have saved my old HD's too.

You have administrator privileges, right? In Windows can you get to your C:\ drive?

Make a folder on your C:\ drive called C:\GAMES or C:\SUBGAMES - whatever. It won't conflict with the Windows \games folder so don't worry about that.

Access your old Hard drive and drag the SHCE SILENT folder over to your new \GAMES folder. I hope it is a Full install, that's important.

All you need to do is drag the BUD movies over from the CD if they are not on your install, modify the *.ini files, and configure DOSBox.

Happy Hunting!

[Julian]

Many thanks..

Well!!! Got Silent Hunter 1 running and looks good.

Next question is to configure the sound.

I have a Realtek HD Audio sound card instead of the SoundBlaster.

I'm looking at the Dig.ini and Mdi.ini files on the Instructions.

What do I need to do or change in these files?? regarding my sound card.

Also, need to set the screen resolutions for the game. Screen comes up small looking....but playable.

[aanker]

Originally Posted by Julian

Many thanks..

Well!!! Got Silent Hunter 1 running and looks good.

Fantastic!

Next question is to configure the sound.

I have a Realtek HD Audio sound card instead of the SoundBlaster.

I'm looking at the Dig.ini and Mdi.ini files on the Instructions.

What do I need to do or change in these files?? regarding my sound card.

Also, need to set the screen resolutions for the game. Screen comes up small looking....but playable.

Follow the instructions and configure the Dig.ini and Mid.ini as shown in the 'How to Install SHCE using DOSBox' tutorial you are using.

I'm guessing you were successful in dragging the BUD folder over and editing the no CD fix for your install - or maybe you already did that no CD 'fix' on your old rig; editing SHPath.ini:

DATA =DATA\
ART =ART\
SFX =SFX\
SPEECH =SPEECH\
CINES =CINES\
SCEN =SCEN\
BUD =BUD\
SAVE =SAVE\

Next is to configure DOSBox to run SHCE full screen, and with sound.

Some run it through a Front End, some just run it using DOSBox alone.

In the distant past as well as recently in this Classic Subsims forum I have seen other posts describe both methods - also described on subsowespac.org if you are using that tutorial.

[Julian]

An odd situation here....

In the Menu of Silent Hunter 1, there is a button called INTERVIEWS.
It takes you to the screen with videos and interviews by sub commanders explaining various topics on Submarine warfare and controls.

When I play these, I get sound coming from my speakers and listen to their reports. The sound works here.

BUT!! no sound in the game play portion of the sims.

The Realtek sound card doesn't give too much detail as does the Sound Blaster with all its settings as shown in the instructions like drivers, IO_ADDR, DMA and IRQ.

I got the Full screen setup no problem.
Just a matter of sound.

You mentioned running through Frontend or DosBox.
What are the procedures with these two??

One of these have to work.

Thanks again.