Pressure on Merkel rises due to NSA espionage scandal

Schroeder · 05-17-15, 02:28 PM

Unless the industry brings her down nothing will change. She's been Teflon since day 1 and some of her subjugates might be sacrificed for it (de Maizière has become more trouble than he's worth for example) but she'll get away without a scratch and will be reelected next time I'm sure. We're just too dumb with very short memories and have to few real alternatives.

Catfish · 05-17-15, 02:59 PM

^ well, when i look at how childish and unprofessional secret services and politicians act, and with what kind of prerequisites they reach their profession (right-wing, lots of century-old prejudice and preferably without proper higher education) i think there are indeed a lot of better people around. This is not 'altenativlos' at all (this word b.t.w. deserves to be the worst word-creation of the year. Created by Merkel, of course).
Problem is you do not get into those inner circles, without proper insider relationship, and/or money.
Sometimes i think they do not even suspect how most despise them.
But then we can't complain, who with a half pound of brain would voluntarily do this job?

Back to the five eyes and spying. This time they got the german industry where it hurts: Money. This might change a few things – not that i really expect it. You know patriotism, terrorism, alternativlos, blahblahblah.

Schroeder · 05-17-15, 04:05 PM

The short term alternatives for her would come from either SPD, Grüne or Linke. Non of them is a true alternative unless you want Gabriel, Hofreiter or Gysi as chancellor. On second thought though....can't be that much worse than "Mutti" who hasn't been doing much in almost a decade in power and still lives of Gerhard Schröder's Agenda 2010.

Catfish · 05-18-15, 04:11 AM

^ This is the worst thing. When i hear the SPD speak today, it sounds just like the CDU or FDP some years ago. This 2010 agenda from the SPD is all Merkel lives from, and it would have been a fine CDU idea. Not that Kohl or Merkel have had any new or inspirational ideas, at all.
Merkel has just swallowed all ideas of other parties and made them their own.
Let's see how she handles the accusation of treason..

Wolferz · 05-18-15, 08:04 AM

Is always the first refuge of the incompetent.

05-17-15, 02:28 PM	#1
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Unless the industry brings her down nothing will change. She's been Teflon since day 1 and some of her subjugates might be sacrificed for it (de Maizière has become more trouble than he's worth for example) but she'll get away without a scratch and will be reelected next time I'm sure. We're just too dumb with very short memories and have to few real alternatives. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

05-17-15, 02:59 PM	#2
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,799 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ well, when i look at how childish and unprofessional secret services and politicians act, and with what kind of prerequisites they reach their profession (right-wing, lots of century-old prejudice and preferably without proper higher education) i think there are indeed a lot of better people around. This is not 'altenativlos' at all (this word b.t.w. deserves to be the worst word-creation of the year. Created by Merkel, of course). Problem is you do not get into those inner circles, without proper insider relationship, and/or money. Sometimes i think they do not even suspect how most despise them. But then we can't complain, who with a half pound of brain would voluntarily do this job? Back to the five eyes and spying. This time they got the german industry where it hurts: Money. This might change a few things – not that i really expect it. You know patriotism, terrorism, alternativlos, blahblahblah. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

05-17-15, 04:05 PM	#3
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The short term alternatives for her would come from either SPD, Grüne or Linke. Non of them is a true alternative unless you want Gabriel, Hofreiter or Gysi as chancellor. On second thought though....can't be that much worse than "Mutti" who hasn't been doing much in almost a decade in power and still lives of Gerhard Schröder's Agenda 2010. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

05-18-15, 04:11 AM	#4
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,799 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ This is the worst thing. When i hear the SPD speak today, it sounds just like the CDU or FDP some years ago. This 2010 agenda from the SPD is all Merkel lives from, and it would have been a fine CDU idea. Not that Kohl or Merkel have had any new or inspirational ideas, at all. Merkel has just swallowed all ideas of other parties and made them their own. Let's see how she handles the accusation of treason.. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

05-18-15, 08:04 AM	#5
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	Secrecy Is always the first refuge of the incompetent. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

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