Awards in Campaign

[CapnScurvy]

Originally Posted by Longknife

My intention for this post was not to seek approval from others but to get an understanding of why it happened. As a former military man I have a certain reverence for CMH holders & truth be told I was kinda disgusted that I got it.

That's why I don't have the CMH as the highest award with "U.S. Medals Fix II". Just not right to award the CMH for tonnage sunk.

Neither is the Distinguished Service Medal.....it was for "exceptionally mertorious service to the government in a duty of great responsibility". In my opinion, this criteria does not hold true of a sub Captain, and especially not of an enlisted crewman. What I have found is the medal is usually bestowed to senior "Navy Flag and Marine Corps General Officers" not rank and file sub Captains and definitely not to an enlisted man.

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Originally Posted by Crannogman

I was under the impression that your OTC deals with the medals as well

Yes, it does. It has the same upc files as the U.S. Medals Fix II

[Crannogman]

Gotcha - on review, it appears I was getting the Navy Cross, not the DSC

[CapnScurvy]

I was quickly reading the U.S. Medals Fix II thread and remembered there is also a criteria of ship quality that plays into effect of the awards. In other words a CV will rank a higher award than two CA's....even if there's more tonnage with the two Heavy Cruisers than the one Carrier. Also, the number of successful patrols plays a part as well.

As far as RFB, I don't know what they have done to the awards. I see I made a mod for an earlier version of RFB, but I don't think RFB 2.0 incorporated my changes to the UPC files, which corrects the hierarchy order of the medals. They may be still using the stock game files.

[Crannogman]

Is it tonnage or renown that counts?

[CapnScurvy]

I don't think specific ship renown has much to do with the award system. As this earlier reply in the U.S. Medals Fix thread states, there doesn't seem to be a connection.

Tonnage, ship quality (decided by Type rather than renown), successful patrol quantity, I believe make up the qualifications for the system. AND, I believe the option for game Realism plays a role as well. The higher the Realism....the greater the modifier to the system.

[fireftr18]

Originally Posted by Longknife

My intention for this post was not to seek approval from others but to get an understanding of why it happened. As a former military man I have a certain reverence for CMH holders & truth be told I was kinda disgusted that I got it.

I don't think anyone thought you were looking for approval, just asking a legitimate question. The stock game has many flaws, the medals are just one of the more noticeable flaws.

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

That's why I don't have the CMH as the highest award with "U.S. Medals Fix II". Just not right to award the CMH for tonnage sunk.

TMO does away with the CMH also. It would be nice after getting a certain amount of tonnage, with certain ships involved, but not important. Overall, I am glad the mods get rid of it. Getting several of them for mediocre patrols gets a bit tiring.

Originally Posted by Crannogman

Is it tonnage or renown that counts?

It's tonnage. Renown is a real, in game award for getting so much tonnage, and maybe certain types of ship.

[CapnScurvy]

Just a follow up on the award/medal question for RFB 2.0.

I found LukeFF does not have the tier/hierarchy that "U.S.Medals Fix II" uses.....soooo, the RFB award system will respond much like the stock game. Screwed up big time!

Sorry guys, I don't have a mod to fix RFB 2.0....nor, do I want to.

[Longknife]

Originally Posted by CapnScurvy

Sorry guys, I don't have a mod to fix RFB 2.0....nor, do I want to.

You're breaking my heart Cap'n!

You're OTC is the only thing that keeps me playing TMO. You live 30mi from where I work. I will keep you in beer while you work on OTC for RFB!

Seriously though, not meaning to hijack my own thread but is there a way to tone down the AI in TMO? Last night my beloved pigboat got creamed by a DD that spotted me as I was approaching a convoy. Said DD was at a measure 6500yds away on a moonless night in high seas. No kidding!!! TICKED me off!