Need help with current situation off coast of Luzan

[Sniper297]

You say "Luzan" I assume you're talking about Luzon. Off the EAST coast of Luzon there are many unescorted merchant ships moving north and south, easy pickings on that side. In real life you'd be given a patrol area and wouldn't leave that area without receiving permission, the game doesn't care. Stay near the star for 48 hours and the second part says "destroy enemy merchants in (Celebes, Sulu, wherever) it actually doesn't matter where you sink them, as long as you score 10,000 tons of merchants you can sink them in Osaka for all the game cares.

Mission objectives get you X number of renown points, but it's really a small enough number that you can actually ignore the mission objectives and continue the career by earning renown for tonnage. I haven't looked into how the game processes renown much, sink a 30,000 ton battleship or three 10,000 ton tankers the score is 30,000 tons either way - but does the warship count for more renown per ton or not? Dunno.

Main problem with realism is that in real life you would get credit for damaging a warship even if you ran out of fish and were unable to sink it, the game doesn't work that way - if the target isn't destroyed you may as well not have bothered to attack it at all for all the credit you'll get. That's the worst trouble with the Sugar boats, run across the Yamato and fire all 12 Mark 10s at it, damage it enough to put it out of the war for three months and you'd get a medal, promotion, new sub and ticker tape parade. In the game you get diddly squat unless it sinks, which makes the whole attack/don't attack decision completely different in the game. To me it's one of the most glaring flaws in the series.

[Sniper297]

Just for grins and giggles I checked it out - edited US_NavalBases.mis to set up a KONGO battleship and three large modern tankers in Manila bay. Started career, sank the three tankers, went into port and ended patrol. 31,000 tons, renown 759. Started another career, ignored tankers, sank KONGO, 32,000 tons, 759 renown, same medal. It would appear from that experiment the renown is geared only to tonnage and nothing else. Sink 500 sixty ton sampans and you're as big a hero as if you sink a 30,000 ton battleship.

[TorpX]

Isn't the renown awarded, set in the ships' *.cfg files?

[Spraug]

Originally Posted by Sniper297

... That's the worst trouble with the Sugar boats, run across the Yamato and fire all 12 Mark 10s at it, damage it enough to put it out of the war for three months and you'd get a medal, promotion, new sub and ticker tape parade. In the game you get diddly squat unless it sinks, which makes the whole attack/don't attack decision completely different in the game. To me it's one of the most glaring flaws in the series.

Well, you can always surface and sink Yamato with the 4" gun! If you ever do, please upload a video of it!

[merc4ulfate]

I do not think I have ever sank the Yamato with fewer than 8 fish. No way I'm using a deck gun. I tried that on a wounded Kongo once and I expended every single round into it and it never went down. I had put a few fish in it ... enough to stop it and waited for the escorts to leave the area than at night out of its visual range I hammered away but it made no difference ... the gun added no damage or so little that it had no effect on her sinking.

I had to leave it burning that way and was none to happy about it.