Terrorist attack in Paris on French magazine

[Skybird]

Oh yeah, there it shows up again: this dream of a "moderate Islam". Not even six hours from first calling the news to mentioning moderate Islam - not bad, but it could be mentioned even faster!

Its not in the scripture it bases on, but still - even if the dream lived just one week, one day - it nevertheless has LIVED !

Islam is as totalitarian by its ideological fundament as communism or fascism are. Supremacist to the core and bone, unforgiving towards anybody refusing it, nobody's friend except to itself, all world's enemy. A world it says it has the divine obligation to claim all, and where peace only can be had on your knees, under the sword of Muhammad, in voluntary or enforced submission, the green flag flying in the wind above you. You either love green - or you are to be dead.

This and nothing else is the teaching of Islam, and always has been. The Arabic root of the word Islam means submission.

[Tchocky]

Still no word on the gunmen. Getting some heartbreaking texts from a friend in Paris.

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Still no word on the gunmen. Getting some heartbreaking texts from a friend in Paris.

If these guys get away I'm sure they'll strike again eventually.

[Silent Steel]

People like this have no reason for existence and will not prevail.

They should think of this;

"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

by Evelyn Beatrice Hall

If they can think at all

[ikalugin]

Well how about we derail this into the Kosovo direction, ahh, I forgot, Serbians are blamed by the West for everything that ever happened there.

[Mr Quatro]

Well planed attack out of what, jealousy?

Did you see one of the shooters coming back to the car and bending down to pick up something on the ground?

Looked like a clip for his gun empty or not I do not know.

They had this on some kind of vengeance list a long time ago.

Odd that Egypt has declared war on religion the day before the attack. Not on Catholics or Christians, but on radical extremist.

Keep the jokes down for sure

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

https://twitter.com/MANJULtoons/stat...352320/photo/1

https://twitter.com/MicheleLaroque/s...179072/photo/1

[STEED]

Not 10 days into the new year, evil is rampant and will get worst.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by STEED

Not 10 days into the new year, evil is rampant and will get worst.

We are still in just the middle of the first third of the new Islamic attempt to spread into the remaining world.

Two and a half thirds still to be played for the coming two generations or so.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

If these guys get away I'm sure they'll strike again eventually.

That's the weirdest thing about this.

No martyrdom. No hostages. No public statements by the attackers. Makes you expect more.

Ugh.

[Penguin]

Having worked for a satire show for years, this hits damned close.
Satire is one of my personal holy pillars.

The german Titanic magazine reacted properly and put an elder cover on their website (don't click if drawn penises offend you).
Translation: comparative religion

Their editor in chief and MEP, Martin Sonneborn gave an appropriate statement on facebook.

"Das ist nicht komisch. Mit Anzeigen, Abokündigungen oder Kalaschnikow-Geballer auf Satire zu reagieren, gilt in der Szene als unfein. Unser Mitleid gilt den Franz. Kollegen. Bei Titanic könnte so etwas nicht passieren, wir haben nur 6 Redakteure."

"That's not funny. Reacting to satire with police reports, quitting subscribtions or shooting Kalashnikovs is seen as ungentlemanly in the scene. Our compassion is with the French colleagues. This could not happen at our magazine, as we have only 6 editors."

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Penguin

The german Titanic magazine reacted properly and put an elder cover on their website
(...)
"That's not funny. Reacting to satire with police reports, quitting subscribtions or shooting Kalashnikovs is seen as ungentlemanly in the scene. Our compassion is with the French colleagues. This could not happen at our magazine, as we have only 6 editors."

That's the spirit!

I assume they are no vegetarians... (for the sensible of hearts: that is called an insider joke )

[Betonov]

The satirical media responded well. More satire means less fear.



I fear what the mainstreams will do. They'll overanalyse, overblow, overcomment and sell another few truckloads of fear to a population (not just France) that could do without.
Let's not mention the politicians.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Betonov

The satirical media responded well. More satire means less fear.



I fear what the mainstreams will do. They'll overanalyse, overblow, overcomment and sell another few truckloads of fear to a population (not just France) that could do without.
Let's not mention the politicians.

That cartoon is spot on, as indeed many cartoonists and comics are.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Most Germans did not kill a Jew or abused or dealt with a Jew themselves during the Nazi tyranny, seen that way they were "innocent" and peaceful. To say that the rise of the regime and Nazism had nothing to do with the Germans, nevertheless would be wrong. The Third Reich was not just anybody or nobody, it was the Germans.

Does this mean that it is acceptable to call all Germans Nazis and that there was no resistance against the Third Reich?

Let me answer that, no it is not acceptable to call all Germans Nazis because not all of them were, many of them just wanted to survive without being noticed by the state, and some of them thought that some of the things that the Nazis said about the Jews and Communists was not necessarily incorrect. Did they want the Jews exterminated? Most likely not, but they were happy to see Hitler take the power back from the fat cat Jews and tackle the threat of international communism.
So...does that mean that all Muslims are radicals? According to more than a couple on here, yes...and so therefore, one must conclude that all Germans were Nazis.

There was also resistance against the Third Reich, from within Germany itself, the much publicised attempts on Hitlers lives, as well as the attempts of the White Rose movement, as doomed as they were. There is also resistance against Radical Islam from within Islam, as well as attempts at reformation, attempts that frighten and scare the radicals and the old Imams who hate change in any manner. Therefore these brave men and women who lead these movements often find themselves imprisoned, tortured and killed, and yet others continue in their place. So rather than push Muslims towards extremism by treating them all as extremists, we should encourage them away from extremists and towards reformists, of course our good friends in Riyadh probably wouldn't approve of us doing that...