The ELM Is Smoking Crack

Oberon · 11-11-14, 11:11 PM

There was an anti-radiation missile called the Shrike, but I'm pretty sure it was retired a while ago.

I kind of see what they mean, without the transponder on the radar will pick it up as a UFO, which means it'll either be disregarded as anaprop or it'll have something designated to pay it a visit. A small sized fighter on the deck could probably blend in with the terrain enough to dodge all but the lowest of radar, not that this would be much of a threat to a civilian airliner at 30,000 feet.

It's definitely hyping it up though, as most media outlets do especially the smaller ones hoping to snag clicks with sensationalism. Whilst there has been a slight increase in Russian activity, it's all been in international airspace and is no different to what we do in return with drones and our ELINT aircraft, but that doesn't get published in western media.

Gorbie warned of a return to the Cold War, I think he's shutting the stable door after the Cossack has bolted, the Cold War is back...on the up side, at least the Russians make for better movie villains than the Mujahedeen. More competent ones anyway. It's not as if you can have a movie about a Taliban EMP satellite, but you can with the Russians, and it'll still be able to be sold in China!

ikalugin · 11-12-14, 06:47 AM

This is just the regular alarmist article (evil Russians strike again!), as air traffic at high altitude (where air liners fly) is controlled by the radars in Europe.

Also what the article does not mention is that a number of those incidents was caused by... western intelligence gathering assets (like that time with the flanker passing close by or when Norwegian "ecologists" were trying to collect Russian sonoboys in a restricted exercise area).

Catfish · 11-12-14, 07:37 AM

^ Huh you don't tell me not only the russians used fishing trawlers to spy ?

You destroy my entire view of the NATO

On a darker note: The cold war is indeed back, and this time it is only the West and NATO, to blame.
Maybe it is time to retroactively refuse military duty. I do not think my oath allows me to join that crap, militarily.

Jimbuna · 11-12-14, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

There was an anti-radiation missile called the Shrike, but I'm pretty sure it was retired a while ago.

Rgr that, not used by the US since Nam and by the Brits since the Falklands IIRC....replaced by the AGM-88 HARM.

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,804 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Huh you don't tell me not only the russians used fishing trawlers to spy ? You destroy my entire view of the NATO On a darker note: The cold war is indeed back, and this time it is only the West and NATO, to blame. Maybe it is time to retroactively refuse military duty. I do not think my oath allows me to join that crap, militarily. Last edited by Catfish; 11-12-14 at 07:58 AM.

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11-11-14, 11:11 PM	#1
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	There was an anti-radiation missile called the Shrike, but I'm pretty sure it was retired a while ago. I kind of see what they mean, without the transponder on the radar will pick it up as a UFO, which means it'll either be disregarded as anaprop or it'll have something designated to pay it a visit. A small sized fighter on the deck could probably blend in with the terrain enough to dodge all but the lowest of radar, not that this would be much of a threat to a civilian airliner at 30,000 feet. It's definitely hyping it up though, as most media outlets do especially the smaller ones hoping to snag clicks with sensationalism. Whilst there has been a slight increase in Russian activity, it's all been in international airspace and is no different to what we do in return with drones and our ELINT aircraft, but that doesn't get published in western media. Gorbie warned of a return to the Cold War, I think he's shutting the stable door after the Cossack has bolted, the Cold War is back...on the up side, at least the Russians make for better movie villains than the Mujahedeen. More competent ones anyway. It's not as if you can have a movie about a Taliban EMP satellite, but you can with the Russians, and it'll still be able to be sold in China!

11-12-14, 06:47 AM	#2
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	This is just the regular alarmist article (evil Russians strike again!), as air traffic at high altitude (where air liners fly) is controlled by the radars in Europe. Also what the article does not mention is that a number of those incidents was caused by... western intelligence gathering assets (like that time with the flanker passing close by or when Norwegian "ecologists" were trying to collect Russian sonoboys in a restricted exercise area).