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Old 10-31-14, 09:21 AM   #1
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I did ponder exactly what Argentina was going to use to buy these aircraft...then again, I pondered the same thing about us and those F-35s...
What ??
You already own F-35s




I ''saw'' one in York
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Old 10-31-14, 09:31 AM   #2
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What ??
You already own F-35s




I ''saw'' one in York


Indeed we did

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Old 10-31-14, 09:43 AM   #3
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All depends on the next Top Gear, I'd say.
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Old 10-31-14, 10:28 AM   #4
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The Gripen by no means is a bad plane, it really is not.

If the Argentinians show intent to acquire any means to secure a naval transport capacity that in any way could defeat a subsim menace from Britian, or their airmobile capacity would be evaluated by Britian to be capable enough to shuttle decisive combat force to the islands if the few Typhoons there (how many were it? 4?) got neutralised - then it is time to start worrying. I take it for granted that these days Britain does not have the military capacity anymore, the money and the will, to re-conquer the Falklands once again in case of Argentina or a Southamerican alliance managing to seize them and gain control of them.

Notoriously needing to invest one submarine's presence there, strategically is a costly affair in times of a significantly shrunk fleet. That sub cannot be at another location if it is at the Falklands, and not too many submarines are left in the fleet. The very longterm future of the Falklands maybe is not as certain as Britons today think. And the Americans will not lend a hand over those islands.
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That's the beautiful thing about a submarine, you don't know where it is until it surfaces.
HMS Astute might be sitting off the Falklands, or it might not, no-one other than Whitehall is going to know that...and I don't think the Argentinian secret service is that entrenched in Westminster.
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I think the Astute should surface somewhere near the Falklands, go BOOGA BOOGA, dive and head home. The search costs after that should tank the Argentine economy
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I think the Astute should surface somewhere near the Falklands, go BOOGA BOOGA, dive and head home. The search costs after that should tank the Argentine economy


Makes a change after Falklands war when we spent most of our time running around after their submarines.
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Old 10-31-14, 03:03 PM   #8
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I think the Astute should surface somewhere near the Falklands, go BOOGA BOOGA, dive and head home. The search costs after that should tank the Argentine economy
Bonus if they fly a pirate flag.
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Old 10-31-14, 02:45 PM   #9
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And the Americans will not lend a hand over those islands.
Remember this.. after they 'forced' you to join them in the middle east
I'm sure the spy planes/NSA might help... but I don't see any major US deployments.

The Gippen, at those ranges, are not much better than the Mirages they were using in War-1.
The Brits should just get a few older cheap, carrier adapted, Mig29 Fulcrums ... these will kick the Grippens ass big time. The fulcrums are better than the Grippen with electronic warfare equipment and it's sooooo much more maneuverable in close DF combat.

The world has yet to beat the old Fulcrum...
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