Julian Assange leaving?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Unfortunately Jamie, getting a bunch of monkeys to agree on anything is a very unlikely outcome.

True that.

[Skybird]

^... except when it comes to building spaceships.

[Catfish]

True that ..

However, there are some intelligent people on earth, and there are some who still behave (and have the IQ of) monkeys.
(Sorry monkeys, some of our military leaders, secret service officers or politicians are way below you, by any measure)

So the question is why are those sub-monkeys execptionally often to be met in Secret services, ISIS leaders, politically rightwings and generally in leading positions ?

Why is the rest of mankind, despite their so-called "intelligence", so dumb as to let them do what they want, let them get in those positions and then let them stay there ?

[Jimbuna]

Back OT....I see the figure for this fiasco now reaches £7 million...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/polit...e-9675157.html

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Back OT....I see the figure for this fiasco now reaches £7 million...

Two years, 3 policemen every day – one can wonder why this was necessary or not – but let's take the (far-fetched!) assumption it was.

Can someone please tell me why this "observation" has costed 7 million pounds ?
The british police seems to be a bit overpaid

[Jimbuna]

Could be the cost of the SAS snipers on the rooftops (one at the front and one at the rear) waiting of him setting foot on the pavement

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Could be the cost of the SAS snipers on the rooftops (one at the front and one at the rear) waiting of him setting foot on the pavement

How very funny.
But then i guess it is in the best free, law-abiding and democratic tradition, of the British Empire


Nah, it is only to add pressure on Assange, but (i hope) the rest of the world clearly sees what is done there.

[Skybird]

New legislations have been released as a consequence of the Assange mess, making it more difficult to extradite somebody to another nation as long as he is only wanted for questioning, but charges or warrants not being raised. This could be what he is referring to when hinting at a possible deal in the works. I do not think currently that he just steps out, goes to Sweden and accepts the risk of being handed over to the US.

That such new legislation was introduced shows that even the officials have realised that there is something smelly in the situation as it was allowed to become reality two years ago.

It reminds of the way they took out Strauss-Kahn to prevent him voting on an important vote over some Euro policies back then, he was alleged to have forced a servant girl for oral sex while he already was leaving. As the just deceased Peter Scholl-Latour commented on the abstruseness of the whole plot: "She rather could have just bitten into it - then the whole story would have been over immediately."

Sex not only sells, it also defames better than anything else. New relevations by a post-Snowden source claim that the NSA is systetmiacally tracking the itnernet behavior and porn consummation of opposing politicians in and outside the US, to collect material by which they could be blackmailed if the "need" arises.

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Catfish

How very funny.
But then i guess it is in the best free, law-abiding and democratic tradition, of the British Empire

Hey, we respected Belgiums neutrality, did you?

[Catfish]

^ Hey we wanted, but they did not let us
go through

Anyway after reading a lot of history stuff i do not believe in a german exclusive responsibility any more.

When this german minister asked his french colleague after the end of WW1, what the world would say about this war a hundred years in the future, the answer was "They will never say that France invaded Belgium".
What a clever man, he knew exactly what the propaganda had been about

While of course the german minister meant Italy, and the British Empire

[Skybird]

It gets reported currently, with referring to an article in the WP and Wikileaks as main source, that the US have secretly sued Assange and tried to hide it in a bid to arrest him or letting him getting arrested and then handed over, if he leaves the embassay in London.

It seems his "paranoia" is fully justified from all beginning on.

The weaseling in America now, trying to explain this as a warrant that "by accident" has a wrong name (Assange's name) on it, is an exercise in self-ridiculing.

[Skybird]

Finally a link without subscription needed. The BBC picks it up:


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46232609

[Catfish]

What is he accused of?
We know how good friend Saudi-Arabia handles this, or Turkey. So the West is no better.

Sure, after Trump and his fake media there is a lot that has changed in tone, action and respecting international law. And mankind will probably never go back again, after this new low.
So could it be there are indeed some values left in the EU, at least in comparison.

[Skybird]

The Swedes, in a changed way, still want get hands on him. The British said they will arrest him if he leaves the embassy, formally accusing him of having violated conditions of probation in 2010. Both reasons of theirs are all too obvious strawman claims. In any case, no matter promises and claims, will result in him ending up in US custody. They would even arrest him and hand him to the Americans if he would have parked his car in a forbidden place.

The whole plot about rape and abuse in sweden was a staged one, with dubious witnesses and and most suspect circumstances, and that tells probably all the important point there is to know about all this. We discussed this and I made my arguments back then, and I have never had any reason in those years to change and "correct" my original views of all this.

[u crank]

Oh oh. This could present a real dilemma for the left wing media who cheer on Robert Mueller's Russian collusion investigation and demand that he be protected.

Mueller could end up being both the good guy and the bad guy. Can't wait to see how that is spun.

WikiLeaks and Assange loom large in the investigation of Russian influence on the election.

The website released unflattering Hillary Clinton campaign emails beginning Oct. 7, 2016, just weeks before the presidential election.

Mueller, who's directing a federal inquiry into election meddling, in July charged 12 Russian intelligence officers with conspiring to hack Democratic National Committee computers in an effort to disrupt the 2016 election. The indictment referred to WikiLeaks as “Organization 1,” and described its role in receiving and disseminating the emails, without addressing whether Assange knew the material came from the Russians.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ssange-n937036