Windows 8.1 problems

Shooter7 · 08-18-14, 01:24 PM

Figured I'd try this before I have to sign off for a bit, I remember seeing that GU file in there. I clicked on it, but didn't start the game for me. Still nothing working. Throwing out ideas... on my first attempt to load this game, I let it load everything but the game shadow. Could the adobe file it loaded have anything to do with inhibiting it, and do I need to delete that file? Could there be any other files anywhere that need specific deleting that could be a block to the game. Very frustrating knowing some people are running this game on 8.1 but I can't get this going. I have another older tank game I was going to try and put on here, but figure I'll probably have the same problem.

There is a comment further up regarding using D: drive to load on and staying away from C:, should I be trying this?

Thanks for any further help.

Eichhörnchen · 08-18-14, 02:24 PM

I think he meant do you have another drive on your pc; I load games onto an auxiliary hard-drive when I'm installing something that will run on my old desktop, but the "brains" which start the programs are always going to end up in your pc's C-Drive, as far as I know, so any links which aren't functioning will still be there. Do you have a laptop with more than one Drive?

This has to be just an issue of an incorrect path, I would've thought.

BUT...I know you've tried to run it on compatibility settings, but have you tried INSTALLING it on compatibility settings? I know it's a pain to have to uninstall yet again but I had a tip from an expert recently about installing XP-configured software on Windows 8: he said to NOT just select the Autoplay choice when the little blue rectangle appears at the top but instead choose to open the disc, find the "setup" icon, right-click this and choose to run IT on compatibility settings. It will ask you to TEST, as usual, so you then let the INSTALLER go to work (on XP settings) and once the thing is installed you'll be able to save these settings (though I don't really see why).

Then try running it, either with or without compatibility settings (maybe try both).

Incidentally, this guru also advised me not to install programs configured for any O/S older than XP. Just XP or Vista.

PS/ I work at home too, so get to fiddle about here at all odd times (though I shouldn't)

Eichhörnchen · 08-18-14, 02:31 PM

PPS/ this guru also told me I shouldn't really look to install anything on Windows 8 which is designed for an OS older than XP; just XP/Vista. I run all kinds of cheesy old stuff on my laptop in complete contravention of these rules, but now and again he does have to come round and pound it on the chest...

(Apologies for apparently repeating myself: I thought I'd lost the last part of my message but I'd just turned the page is all...)

Shooter7 · 08-18-14, 04:30 PM

Sure, I'll try doing that, what the heck... it's not like I don't have time because I'm playing a fun submarine game or anything. I'll try after I eat here. In the meantime, can anybody tell me if I should uninstall the adobe file or not while I'm uninstalling stuff? thanks

Eichhörnchen · 08-18-14, 05:06 PM

Again I'm no expert but I don't see why you need to bother removing Adobe...

Shooter7 · 08-18-14, 05:35 PM

Ok, so here's what happened... uninstalled SH4, put game disk in, when the install screen came up I chose to open the files instead of run, I right clicked on the setup application, the only choice I had for compatibility was the troubleshooter so I chose that, as I went through that I chose Windows Vista as the system it would formerly work under, it then presented the test button which I clicked on, after a few seconds the install setup screen began and I directed it through the process leaving off game shadow and adobe, I closed out of the install screen when finished rather than choosing to run, I then went into the game exe file on the c: drive and told it to open.... it thought for a second then nothing more happened.

Shooter7 · 08-18-14, 08:34 PM

Well, I'm out of ideas. Not finding anything further online to give me any other ideas of what to try and do.

captcrane · 08-19-14, 09:35 AM

Wow Shooter thought for sure that would have worked. I am new to windows 8 too. When I installed SH4 I did it from the win 7 desktop screen not the screen with the apps on it

Shooter7 · 08-19-14, 09:49 AM

I'm doing mine from the desktop too, not the app screen. I just did the whole thing again, ran the troubleshooter, told it to run in XP compatibility both from the install and after it was installed and actually gave me the option of putting a shortcut on my desktop, even turned off my antivirus just for good measure. After all of that, still doesn't boot up. I don't get it.

Eichhörnchen · 08-19-14, 10:42 AM

Yes, I forgot to mention I also use a desktop for my Windows 8.

I put another game disc into my pc to see for myself but the only way I could see what you saw was to right click on the "autorun" icon, which offered compatibility settings. I'd still prefer to launch "setup" on compatibility though (and sometimes, for some reason, you have to right-click several times before all your choices appear). Still unsure whether your install has been completed on compatibility settings, but the fact is mine was just installed using the Autoplay (before I was advised otherwise) and, like many other programs installed this way, it works just fine.

Got to go out now but will be back; maybe we should call on one of the big brains up in the command room.

Shooter7 · 08-19-14, 10:45 AM

I saw that autoplay EXE selection too, and wondered about it. Maybe I'll try using it to install... Maybe I need to go to Best Buy and get Geek Squad help or something. lol

Shooter7 · 08-19-14, 11:34 AM

Hot Damn, I got it to work!

Going to try to remember my steps and put them down here so they can possibly help someone else.

I put the disk in, when the install screen came up, I told it to open files instead of the normal install, I went first to the Autorun setup selection and right clicked, in that I chose properties, the selections that came up included the compatibility mode, in that I chose XP service pack 3 and clicked ok, after doing that nothing happened, so I left that as it was and went to the setup file and right clicked it, again chose properties from the menu, and went to compatibility and made sure it was set to XP service pack 3 as well and selected ok, briefly after that the game installer started up, since I already had the adobe loaded from previous attempts I told it to not load adobe or game shadow, it went ahead and did the rest of the install, at the end of the install it wanted to restart the machine and gave me the choice of restart or cancel and finish doing work, I chose cancel and went in and told it to create a shortcut then finish, once it finished doing that I double clicked on the shortcut, it hesitated for a moment, then the screen display went all askew, then a box popped up and said something about running the program in the different settings and I clicked ok or whatever it had there (sorry, was kind of excited at that point), after that the screen went off again for a second and then I had the Ubisoft screen come up and the game loaded! It is sitting on the laptop behind me at the moment in sub school with seagulls making noise. Now, I haven't tried anything more with it than open sub school up because I'm supposed to be working right now.... but the game booted up!!

08-18-14, 02:24 PM	#2
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,488 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I think he meant do you have another drive on your pc; I load games onto an auxiliary hard-drive when I'm installing something that will run on my old desktop, but the "brains" which start the programs are always going to end up in your pc's C-Drive, as far as I know, so any links which aren't functioning will still be there. Do you have a laptop with more than one Drive? This has to be just an issue of an incorrect path, I would've thought. BUT...I know you've tried to run it on compatibility settings, but have you tried INSTALLING it on compatibility settings? I know it's a pain to have to uninstall yet again but I had a tip from an expert recently about installing XP-configured software on Windows 8: he said to NOT just select the Autoplay choice when the little blue rectangle appears at the top but instead choose to open the disc, find the "setup" icon, right-click this and choose to run IT on compatibility settings. It will ask you to TEST, as usual, so you then let the INSTALLER go to work (on XP settings) and once the thing is installed you'll be able to save these settings (though I don't really see why). Then try running it, either with or without compatibility settings (maybe try both). Incidentally, this guru also advised me not to install programs configured for any O/S older than XP. Just XP or Vista. PS/ I work at home too, so get to fiddle about here at all odd times (though I shouldn't) Last edited by Eichhörnchen; 08-18-14 at 03:44 PM.

08-18-14, 02:31 PM	#3
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,488 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	PPS/ this guru also told me I shouldn't really look to install anything on Windows 8 which is designed for an OS older than XP; just XP/Vista. I run all kinds of cheesy old stuff on my laptop in complete contravention of these rules, but now and again he does have to come round and pound it on the chest... (Apologies for apparently repeating myself: I thought I'd lost the last part of my message but I'd just turned the page is all...) Last edited by Eichhörnchen; 08-18-14 at 03:39 PM.

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08-18-14, 01:24 PM	#1
Shooter7 Watch Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 25 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Figured I'd try this before I have to sign off for a bit, I remember seeing that GU file in there. I clicked on it, but didn't start the game for me. Still nothing working. Throwing out ideas... on my first attempt to load this game, I let it load everything but the game shadow. Could the adobe file it loaded have anything to do with inhibiting it, and do I need to delete that file? Could there be any other files anywhere that need specific deleting that could be a block to the game. Very frustrating knowing some people are running this game on 8.1 but I can't get this going. I have another older tank game I was going to try and put on here, but figure I'll probably have the same problem. There is a comment further up regarding using D: drive to load on and staying away from C:, should I be trying this? Thanks for any further help.

08-18-14, 04:30 PM	#4
Shooter7 Watch Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 25 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Sure, I'll try doing that, what the heck... it's not like I don't have time because I'm playing a fun submarine game or anything. I'll try after I eat here. In the meantime, can anybody tell me if I should uninstall the adobe file or not while I'm uninstalling stuff? thanks

08-18-14, 05:06 PM	#5
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,488 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Again I'm no expert but I don't see why you need to bother removing Adobe...

08-18-14, 05:35 PM	#6
Shooter7 Watch Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 25 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Ok, so here's what happened... uninstalled SH4, put game disk in, when the install screen came up I chose to open the files instead of run, I right clicked on the setup application, the only choice I had for compatibility was the troubleshooter so I chose that, as I went through that I chose Windows Vista as the system it would formerly work under, it then presented the test button which I clicked on, after a few seconds the install setup screen began and I directed it through the process leaving off game shadow and adobe, I closed out of the install screen when finished rather than choosing to run, I then went into the game exe file on the c: drive and told it to open.... it thought for a second then nothing more happened.

08-18-14, 08:34 PM	#7
Shooter7 Watch Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 25 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Well, I'm out of ideas. Not finding anything further online to give me any other ideas of what to try and do.

08-19-14, 09:35 AM	#8
captcrane Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 139 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	Wow Shooter thought for sure that would have worked. I am new to windows 8 too. When I installed SH4 I did it from the win 7 desktop screen not the screen with the apps on it

08-19-14, 09:49 AM	#9
Shooter7 Watch Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 25 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I'm doing mine from the desktop too, not the app screen. I just did the whole thing again, ran the troubleshooter, told it to run in XP compatibility both from the install and after it was installed and actually gave me the option of putting a shortcut on my desktop, even turned off my antivirus just for good measure. After all of that, still doesn't boot up. I don't get it.

08-19-14, 10:42 AM	#10
Eichhörnchen Starte das Auto Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: The Fens Posts: 17,488 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Yes, I forgot to mention I also use a desktop for my Windows 8. I put another game disc into my pc to see for myself but the only way I could see what you saw was to right click on the "autorun" icon, which offered compatibility settings. I'd still prefer to launch "setup" on compatibility though (and sometimes, for some reason, you have to right-click several times before all your choices appear). Still unsure whether your install has been completed on compatibility settings, but the fact is mine was just installed using the Autoplay (before I was advised otherwise) and, like many other programs installed this way, it works just fine. Got to go out now but will be back; maybe we should call on one of the big brains up in the command room.

08-19-14, 10:45 AM	#11
Shooter7 Watch Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 25 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I saw that autoplay EXE selection too, and wondered about it. Maybe I'll try using it to install... Maybe I need to go to Best Buy and get Geek Squad help or something. lol

08-19-14, 11:34 AM	#12
Shooter7 Watch Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Central Illinois Posts: 25 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Hot Damn, I got it to work! Going to try to remember my steps and put them down here so they can possibly help someone else. I put the disk in, when the install screen came up, I told it to open files instead of the normal install, I went first to the Autorun setup selection and right clicked, in that I chose properties, the selections that came up included the compatibility mode, in that I chose XP service pack 3 and clicked ok, after doing that nothing happened, so I left that as it was and went to the setup file and right clicked it, again chose properties from the menu, and went to compatibility and made sure it was set to XP service pack 3 as well and selected ok, briefly after that the game installer started up, since I already had the adobe loaded from previous attempts I told it to not load adobe or game shadow, it went ahead and did the rest of the install, at the end of the install it wanted to restart the machine and gave me the choice of restart or cancel and finish doing work, I chose cancel and went in and told it to create a shortcut then finish, once it finished doing that I double clicked on the shortcut, it hesitated for a moment, then the screen display went all askew, then a box popped up and said something about running the program in the different settings and I clicked ok or whatever it had there (sorry, was kind of excited at that point), after that the screen went off again for a second and then I had the Ubisoft screen come up and the game loaded! It is sitting on the laptop behind me at the moment in sub school with seagulls making noise. Now, I haven't tried anything more with it than open sub school up because I'm supposed to be working right now.... but the game booted up!!