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Old 04-06-14, 01:32 PM   #1
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I saw no reason to use "Anonymous" when I see it linked to one and the same name all the time, in books and on webpages - and many of them. The term "the founding fathers" I only use because I notoriously forget what quote is attributed to whom, and there are so many quotes - artificial ones or original ones - that are worth to be known, so when I give such a quote from early presidents or founding fathers I often just say it is by "one of those boys from that gang". Understand it as pragmatism, please, no foul intention there.

I assume that such quotes got "modernised" in an act of creative freedom by somebody. In case of the Frnaklin quote, that is obvious, your version is much longer and sounds old-fashioned than n the version I gave. The Jefferson quote is quite popular and I have it in two other books as well, I also found it in the past in two German blogs , also in quote collection websites. I assume there is something that was said by the man that also served as an original on which this "modernised" quote is basing on. My knowedge on Jefferson is in no way complete, but the summarised biography I have read gives me the impression of a man who nevertheless could very well have said it the way it usually gets quoted.

Anyhow, lets move on.
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Old 04-06-14, 01:41 PM   #2
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I assume the quotes, like many, were not said by the people they are attributed to, but falsely claimed by someone somewhere to give weight to an argument, and then embraced by everybody who liked the quotes and wanted to believe them. I say nothing about Jimbuna's many Churchill "quotes" in the Favorite Quotes thread, but you can bet that if he used one of them to prove a point I'd be all over him too.

Meanwhile, I apologize for diverting from your original point, which is the failure of Democracy. I disagree with you, but it's a good point of discussion.
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Old 04-07-14, 09:17 AM   #3
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I assume the quotes, like many, were not said by the people they are attributed to, but falsely claimed by someone somewhere to give weight to an argument, and then embraced by everybody who liked the quotes and wanted to believe them. I say nothing about Jimbuna's many Churchill "quotes" in the Favorite Quotes thread, but you can bet that if he used one of them to prove a point I'd be all over him too.

Meanwhile, I apologize for diverting from your original point, which is the failure of Democracy. I disagree with you, but it's a good point of discussion.
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Old 04-07-14, 10:43 AM   #4
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Meanwhile, I apologize for diverting from your original point, which is the failure of Democracy.
No need to, really.
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Old 04-07-14, 11:37 AM   #5
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Democracy has just one fault.
Voters prefer bling to brain.
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Getting back to the original question:

Germans think the sight of a Swastika will cause a stiff right arm - just as Americans think the sight of a nipple will make their kids turn blind.
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Old 04-07-14, 01:26 PM   #7
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^ Seems real.




I wonder how americans reproduce, in any american films they keep on their underwear or more - or is it true a girl can get pregnant by kissing ?

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Catfish, I see you never watch HBO
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