The 'future' with UPlay

InvisibleDeath · 10-19-13, 11:32 AM

I've been trying to play SHO for several weeks now. The first and most interesting thing is their decision to use flash. Support for flash is on the way out the door in favor of HTML 5 platforms. (Yes, kiddies, Apple won this fight) Second Epic has proven that their engine can be converted to run in an HTML 5 browser. So if they are going to do this why oh why do it in Flash???!!!

So I login with my account. I say hell yeh let's play. It loads the archives, it loads navigation, it contacts the load balancer -- 1st in queue woo hoo. Contacts the Game Server getting anxious.

There was a problem. Please reload the game.

Wha? Who? Why is everyone looking at me for??? What did I do?

cherbert · 10-19-13, 06:50 PM

Flash is very far from dead on the desktop. I don't know what gives you that impression?

Many many game engines still use it. As for video - even Youtube haven't given up on it yet.

SilentOtto · 10-21-13, 03:33 AM

If flash is not dead (yet) I wish it was executed!

It has been an ugly thing from the start, intended only for cartoon-like animations, and has became a closed standard that only really works well in windows systems...

desertstriker · 10-23-13, 11:03 AM

you can get around the flash issue on macs by using a browser other than safari.

but i think the thing with flash is that so many things already use it like youtube. If youtube gave up and went to html5 then the "death" would be clearer.

on the 19th i know they did some server maintenance as they did on the 23 when i tried to log on earlier today

PS using my mac quite a bit with flash and works very well

Hauptmann Walter Scherf · 02-09-14, 04:22 AM

As a noob who has'nt played this in ages and who recently got back into it,I was stunned how many 'hoops' I had to go through with UPLAY before I could play the darn thing,really annoying.

Love the Sim,hate the UPLAY

desertstriker · 02-09-14, 02:44 PM

Its an upgrade to the old Starforce DRM. I will take Uplay and steam over any of the old DRM schemes

Sephiroth · 02-11-14, 02:16 PM

Flash is being phased out. Adobe announced it a year or two ago. Currently only the PC platform is left. They already phased it out on Android, iPhone, and some other platforms. I am following this closely as the lead IT guy at my business since it can affect my clients in a major way. I believe they keep extending the desktop life of Flash due to sites like YouTube. It reminds me of NT4 and how long it was extended.

UPlay, Steam, and Origin suck. Big examples of why include being required to be online to play games like Skyrim, which are single player, forcing installs from online instead of the disc you bought (do it on dial-up, I dare you!), invasive technologies that scan your data and send it out (do not argue here, I did packet-captures and caught Steam sending out all kinds of crap, such as contacts in my Thunderbird address book), and the fact that you pay $50 for a digital copy or $50 at a store for an actual box and disc. Not only that, but what happens if these services go away one day? I can still play Silent Hunter (DOS) using DOSBox. How would you play anything dependent upon one of these services, whether it was for authentication or online play?

There are many more reasons, but I do not want to start a flame war. [Edited by Herr-Berbunch, user PM'd]

Admiral Halsey · 02-15-14, 01:16 AM

Steam is one of the reasons I don't buy that many PC games anymore. EA's stupid DRM stuff is the other.

rascal101 · 03-08-14, 06:49 AM

Why bother any way - I was able to play and successfully - its boring and repetitive and takes an age to get a decent Type7, graphics are brilliant when compared to say Aces of the deep which was around in the 80's or 90's - if you want thrills and excitement try Farming Simulator or Tractor Driver Simulator, both beet this abortion hands down

andacio · 03-08-14, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rascal101

Why bother any way - I was able to play and successfully - its boring and repetitive and takes an age to get a decent Type7, graphics are brilliant when compared to say Aces of the deep which was around in the 80's or 90's - if you want thrills and excitement try Farming Simulator or Tractor Driver Simulator, both beet this abortion hands down

If you are buying some gold ,then it does not take an age to get a decent type 7. Anyway ...the game is history now, since they anouncced that there are going to be no changes to it .

Catfish · 03-30-14, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Admiral Halsey

Steam is one of the reasons I don't buy that many PC games anymore. EA's stupid DRM stuff is the other.

This.

I have not bought one game after UBI's "Uplay", and Steam. With such DRM and f'n up the customer like that, i simply lost interest. Same with iTunes b.t.w. I either buy software and music, but i will not 'lease' it for a given time.

Phrozin · 05-13-14, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

This.
Same with iTunes b.t.w. I either buy software and music, but i will not 'lease' it for a given time.

+1

Completely agree.

10-19-13, 11:32 AM	#1
InvisibleDeath Loader Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 85 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	The 'future' with UPlay I've been trying to play SHO for several weeks now. The first and most interesting thing is their decision to use flash. Support for flash is on the way out the door in favor of HTML 5 platforms. (Yes, kiddies, Apple won this fight) Second Epic has proven that their engine can be converted to run in an HTML 5 browser. So if they are going to do this why oh why do it in Flash???!!! So I login with my account. I say hell yeh let's play. It loads the archives, it loads navigation, it contacts the load balancer -- 1st in queue woo hoo. Contacts the Game Server getting anxious. There was a problem. Please reload the game. Wha? Who? Why is everyone looking at me for??? What did I do? __________________ ________________________________________ From the depths of the sea you shall never know my presence until it is too late.

02-11-14, 02:16 PM	#7
Sephiroth Seaman Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Fayetteville, NC, USA Posts: 33 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Flash is being phased out. Adobe announced it a year or two ago. Currently only the PC platform is left. They already phased it out on Android, iPhone, and some other platforms. I am following this closely as the lead IT guy at my business since it can affect my clients in a major way. I believe they keep extending the desktop life of Flash due to sites like YouTube. It reminds me of NT4 and how long it was extended. UPlay, Steam, and Origin suck. Big examples of why include being required to be online to play games like Skyrim, which are single player, forcing installs from online instead of the disc you bought (do it on dial-up, I dare you!), invasive technologies that scan your data and send it out (do not argue here, I did packet-captures and caught Steam sending out all kinds of crap, such as contacts in my Thunderbird address book), and the fact that you pay $50 for a digital copy or $50 at a store for an actual box and disc. Not only that, but what happens if these services go away one day? I can still play Silent Hunter (DOS) using DOSBox. How would you play anything dependent upon one of these services, whether it was for authentication or online play? There are many more reasons, but I do not want to start a flame war. [Edited by Herr-Berbunch, user PM'd] Last edited by Herr-Berbunch; 06-16-14 at 04:12 PM. Reason: Removed last couple of sentences mentioning illicit action.

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10-19-13, 06:50 PM	#2
cherbert Engineer Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 210 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Flash is very far from dead on the desktop. I don't know what gives you that impression? Many many game engines still use it. As for video - even Youtube haven't given up on it yet.

10-21-13, 03:33 AM	#3
SilentOtto Engineer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BF79 Posts: 209 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	If flash is not dead (yet) I wish it was executed! It has been an ugly thing from the start, intended only for cartoon-like animations, and has became a closed standard that only really works well in windows systems...

10-23-13, 11:03 AM	#4
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	you can get around the flash issue on macs by using a browser other than safari. but i think the thing with flash is that so many things already use it like youtube. If youtube gave up and went to html5 then the "death" would be clearer. on the 19th i know they did some server maintenance as they did on the 23 when i tried to log on earlier today PS using my mac quite a bit with flash and works very well

02-09-14, 04:22 AM	#5
Hauptmann Walter Scherf Seaman Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Ice Station Zebra Posts: 38 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 0	As a noob who has'nt played this in ages and who recently got back into it,I was stunned how many 'hoops' I had to go through with UPLAY before I could play the darn thing,really annoying. Love the Sim,hate the UPLAY

02-09-14, 02:44 PM	#6
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	Its an upgrade to the old Starforce DRM. I will take Uplay and steam over any of the old DRM schemes

02-15-14, 01:16 AM	#8
Admiral Halsey Best Admiral in the USN Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: USS Enterprise (CV-6) Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 317 Uploads: 0	Steam is one of the reasons I don't buy that many PC games anymore. EA's stupid DRM stuff is the other.

03-08-14, 06:49 AM	#9
rascal101 Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 769 Downloads: 200 Uploads: 0	Why bother any way - I was able to play and successfully - its boring and repetitive and takes an age to get a decent Type7, graphics are brilliant when compared to say Aces of the deep which was around in the 80's or 90's - if you want thrills and excitement try Farming Simulator or Tractor Driver Simulator, both beet this abortion hands down