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I was required to get my TB test, but not required to get the flu shots. I know rules can change, and if so, it is a recent change.
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Funny I looked around and so far as I can tell there is no risk for pregnant women with the flu vaccine in fact it is highly recommended that pregnant women get the shot.
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Wast of time Flu jabs..
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There are people out there who are immuno-compromised who are unable to get vaccines, as they will cause the full fledged disease to erupt. They are protected by the communal vaccinations of those around them. So if you are able to get a vaccine, get it, you are only helping your fellow man. Those who don't may end up being a carrier, but not infected by, of a disease, and putting others at risk.
Having worked, in multiple clinical settings, in healthcare for many years, I have naturally built up my own set of anti-bodies from the constant minor exposures I received, so I can see her logic. But I always got a flu shot when offered. I wasn't about to put a patients health at risk for my own pride. If she worked in an office building or such, then I can accept her refusing a flu shot. But as a practicing nurse, I feel it's extremely unprofessional to do so. |
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![]() Really? I came down with the flu every other year while in school in the military they made us get the flu vaccine each year never came down with it once in 12 years neither did anyone else in my unit except the one German civilian mechanic who was not required to get the vaccine every year I was in Germany. Herr Marshall had the flew each year and showed up for work anyway exposing everyone but no one got sick that occurred with 100% consistency over a 6 year period no way that 60 different people all have that strong of an immune system for the flu vaccine not to have been a factor. Ever since then I get the shot never had the flu since. |
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"The hardest thing of all is to find a black cat in a dark room, especially if there is no cat."
Haven't had a shot since I left Military service in the 80's. Haven't had a proven case of any Flu since then. Where's the Black Cat now? |
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Every year with the fire dept since flu vaccines came available, I got one. And I got the flu every year. Of course going into homes of people with the flu and trapped in a box with someone with the flu didn't help either.
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The Confucius quote is not relevant in this discussion unless you can scientifically prove that the flu vaccine does nothing which you did not.My story not scientific proof either but neither is yours. In this case there is a black cat in the room the black cat being the flu. For starters each years flu vaccine dose not cover every possible strain only the strains expected to be most common so a person can still get exposed to a less common strain in that case that vaccine did not fail because it did not cover the rarer strain.So in the case where several got sick after having the vaccine the reason was because one person was sick with the unprotected strain and spread it.Had the vaccine covered that rarer strain in all likelihood no one would have come down with the flu. Another thing that can occur is being exposed to the flu but it remains dormant for a few days or weeks in the mean time a person goes and gets the vaccine in that case the vaccine would fail because the virus has already entered the persons immune system and will do its work.What a vaccine at least in the case of a virus it allows the immune system to be able to identify the pathogen. This would explain things far better than I can http://science.howstuffworks.com/lif...copic/flu6.htm the way I see it it is like wearing a seat belt or body armor or a hard hat sure these will not protect from all possible things but better to have something than nothing. Last edited by Stealhead; 12-30-13 at 09:18 PM. |
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