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Old 12-26-13, 11:52 AM   #1
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Isn't that sad though? People only notice things when it comes to them in the form of entertainment. I once heard a kid say "Wow! Fallout New Vegas has got AWESOME music!!" Little did he know that the music he was hearing debuted in the 1950's, but he thought the video game developers made it. I blame our education system honestly. What a joke, and what an ignorant, apathetic, aloof, and self-centered society we've become

Ok so I correct myself, Schnellboots launched the attack, I remember reading that now. Stephen Ambrose briefly covered Slapton Sands in his book D-Day the Normandy Invasion.

The Indianapolis was a tragic affair. I often wonder if their fate really was just happenstance. One major thing I've learned in my short life, nothing is as it seems. There are so many layers to this deception onion that I'm afraid it cannot all be peeled back. Layer upon layer of lies, deceit, misinformation, and disinformation have perverted history into some sick pseudo-version of the real thing. It almost seems like we only know the official story of history, and believing the taboo or unofficial story brings about accusations of being paranoid or crazy from the wholly brainwashed masses.

How free are we really? Think about it. Are we truly sure why WW2 went down and how?

"History is the lies that the victors agree upon." -Napoleon Bonaparte

History can be changed with the stroke of a pen. In one swipe of ink, the reputations of men can be either made or broken in an instant. Stories can be hidden or fabricated at will to exact some form of controlled response from the general public. So ask yourself, do we really have freedom of thought? Or are we merely lemmings marching to the tune of our masters music thinking we do?
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Old 12-26-13, 12:14 PM   #2
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One major thing I've learned in my short life, nothing is as it seems.
One major thing I've learned in a long life is never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Or a better (and more laconic) British English variation, coined by Bernard Ingham. "Many journalists have fallen for the conspiracy theory of government. I do assure you that they would produce more accurate work if they adhered to the cock-up theory."

After all, the attempt to cover-up common human traits like ineptitude, complacency , arrogance or stupidity is usually indistinguishable from covering up a conspiracy.

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Old 12-26-13, 02:57 PM   #3
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I wonder if it is just simply stupidity though. To say a man who commits suicide by stabbing himself 10 times in the back and throwing himself over a bridge was just lacking human intelligence causes a raised eyebrow for me.

I know an older gentleman who served 37 years in law enforcement, and the final 17 of those years as a detective investigating mysterious deaths. He told me once of a story where a local PD called upon him to investigate a severed head that was found by the banks of a river. To his astonishment, the local PD did not want to investigate it as a murder, but rather as a "terrible accident." Does Hot Fuzz come to mind?

It makes you wonder, is it really just stupidity, or simply the act of playing stupid?

I don't know about you, but heads don't just randomly fall off by accident and not get found until a week after the fact.

I suppose he was out hunting, got excited when he saw his deer, then "lost his head" so to speak...... Terrible accident, I must say.

The local cops took the head for evidence, marked it as an accident, and closed the case. Nothing about that seems in the least bit suspicious to you?
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Old 12-27-13, 07:44 AM   #4
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The Indianapolis was a tragic affair. I often wonder if their fate really was just happenstance.
Do you know that the Japanese U-boat captain that sank the Indianapolis wrote a book where he also describes that incident?

Many years after the war this captain, on his own suggestion, witnessed in US court to exonerate the captain of Indianapolis - he had been court-martialled, and condemned, for not zig-zagging - and therefore loosing his ship and more than 300 men. The U-boat captain testified that it would have made no difference to the end result. He also had Kaitens onboard which he saw no need to use. Conventional torpedoes did the job.

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Old 12-27-13, 09:36 AM   #5
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he had been court-martialled, and condemned, for not zig-zagging
Yeah, something really seems fishy to me with the Indianapolis story.
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