US companies protest against surveillance

Stealhead · 12-11-13, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Schroeder

Aren't those the companies that make their bucks by spying on people?

Smart man.

Those companies compile data on their users and use said data to market products at them.How they can complain about snooping when they themselves snoop is hypocrisy at its height.

This is like a mob boss saying that he wants to stomp out organized crime.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 12-11-13, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Smart man.

Those companies compile data on their users and use said data to market products at them.How they can complain about snooping when they themselves snoop is hypocrisy at its height.

This is like a mob boss saying that he wants to stomp out organized crime.

Yes, but gubermint doing snooping doesn't create profit. You gotta snoop yer'self and sell that stuff to gubermints!

12-11-13, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

Smart man.

Those companies compile data on their users and use said data to market products at them.How they can complain about snooping when they themselves snoop is hypocrisy at its height.

This is like a mob boss saying that he wants to stomp out organized crime.

Not really.
People using the services of these companies agree to the terms set out in documents which most people simply click to say "yes" without reading them.
Governments and their agencies however agree to a different set of terms which says arbitrary surveillance is a violation of the right to privacy which is a human right.

AVGWarhawk · 12-11-13, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Not really.
People using the services of these companies agree to the terms set out in documents which most people simply click to say "yes" without reading them.
Governments and their agencies however agree to a different set of terms which says arbitrary surveillance is a violation of the right to privacy which is a human right.

The Freedom of Information Act.

12-11-13, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

The Freedom of Information Act.

Not quite, I meant article 12 on the declaration of human rights.

AVGWarhawk · 12-11-13, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Not quite, I meant article 12 on the declaration of human rights.

Those were destroyed in a fire. Sorry.

Stealhead · 12-11-13, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Not really.
People using the services of these companies agree to the terms set out in documents which most people simply click to say "yes" without reading them.
Governments and their agencies however agree to a different set of terms which says arbitrary surveillance is a violation of the right to privacy which is a human right.

Yeah but show me a person who actually reads an ELUA or any other contract for that matter.

Hell people do not read contracts on much more vital things such as employment contracts business contracts much less Facebooks ELUA.

I recall way back when I enlisted in the military after high school the guy at the in processing center tried to get me sign up as a "guaranteed" job. I refused and told him that the fine print said that that really means nothing I go where they need me most not where I want.The guy laughed and said "Smart kid you actually read the contract you'll do well in life".

Not like this little campaign will change anything no government will actually agree to that and everyone knows it.Even if they "do" their fingers will be crossed and they will wink as they talk about it.

And those companies say they care about privacy really? If they truly did and a government ordered them to do something if they had any real integrity they would have shut their service down and informed everyone what was happening.None of them did that so when I see them making these little change campaigns I see it for the pathetic joke that they really are.No what they care about is profits and they play this little game to fool people into thinking that they are not in cahoots with the whole thing.