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Old 12-09-13, 12:07 PM   #1
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I have tried a suicide approach with the scope up to see what this formidable escort is - it is a 'Black Swan' class sloop and a little research reveals that they were one of the more successful ASW vessels of WW2 - so I shall keep clear of them in future.

Up until now, my tactic is to keep down and quiet until the first ships of the convoy have passed over, then come up to periscope depth in the middle of the convoy and wreak as much damage as possible before diving deep and exiting out from the back of the convoy to reload and return. This doesn't work so well with a particularly fast and vigilant escort leading the convoy.
A black swan sloop eh laddie. You're probably up against the feared Johnny Walker himself...time for a little submersible judo-using your opponent's momentum against himself. Lure him directly onto you by revealing your scope. Using a 1 meter depth steam eel at 500-600 meters do a Bungo Straight down-the-throat shot, set at highest speed. Get to 20-25 meters depth and proceed directly under him at top speed,(risky) still viewing thru a lowered scope; his cans should be set too deep and will not get all of you. Rise as he passes and take him with rear tube(s) before he turns to regain his now lost contact. If all fails at this point, head, at speed,( do not crash dive you'll need all your air later) to 200+ meters, the cellar, and prepare to have your 'lily gilded' for a while on silent running. good luck
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Old 12-09-13, 12:19 PM   #2
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A black swan sloop eh laddie. You're probably up against the feared Johnny Walker himself...time for a little submersible judo-using your opponent's momentum against himself. Lure him directly onto you by revealing your scope. Using a 1 meter depth steam eel at 500-600 meters do a Bungo Straight down-the-throat shot, set at highest speed. Get to 20-25 meters depth and proceed directly under him at top speed,(risky) still viewing thru a lowered scope; his cans should be set too deep and will not get all of you. Rise as he passes and take him with rear tube(s) before he turns to regain his now lost contact. If all fails at this point, head, at speed,( do not crash dive you'll need all your air later) to 200+ meters, the cellar, and prepare to have your 'lily gilded' for a while on silent running. good luck
Quite an unrealistic approach - however, it is doable in game depending on your realism settings and mods.
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Old 12-09-13, 12:49 PM   #3
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Full realism; no mods: Works in SHII and V, haven't played SHIII...too scared. In SH II it is Johnny Walker in Tay off Greenland and is brutal as the scenario is in total fog, high seas and radar and two FATS, set long-12,500 meters and slow, are indispensable. The approach from snorkel depth to surface repeatedly to reconnect the radar sweep (1 turn only) and a swift resubmerge from gun fire is the only way to close the convoy targets in that one. Even at 200+ meters on 1 knot silent approach, the Tay can find me. The way to avoid there is to rise as he passes with blow ballast(really fast) when sonar hears the cans coming and race into the convoy in the fog surfaced before he can turn, regain and chase you down. The difficulty makes it one of my favorites, especially as the air cover back to Lorient is severe too.
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Quite an unrealistic approach - however, it is doable in game depending on your realism settings and mods.
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A black swan sloop eh laddie. You're probably up against the feared Johnny Walker himself...time for a little submersible judo-using your opponent's momentum against himself. Lure him directly onto you by revealing your scope. Using a 1 meter depth steam eel at 500-600 meters do a Bungo Straight down-the-throat shot, set at highest speed. Get to 20-25 meters depth and proceed directly under him at top speed,(risky) still viewing thru a lowered scope; his cans should be set too deep and will not get all of you. Rise as he passes and take him with rear tube(s) before he turns to regain his now lost contact. If all fails at this point, head, at speed,( do not crash dive you'll need all your air later) to 200+ meters, the cellar, and prepare to have your 'lily gilded' for a while on silent running. good luck
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