The MaGui mod - Final version

jonmar · 10-25-13, 04:54 PM

It's weird. I know it should work but it doesn't. I keep the scaling setting in the nVidia control panel at "no scaling" normally but I tried both full screen and aspect ratio settings and it doesn't work. When I load the game the loading screen is offset. Like the image is centered on the left bottom corner of the screen. Then the main menu is 1360x768 on the left bottom corner. Rest of my screen is black. When I get into the game itself the UI is in the same position as the main menu was and the same size.

I installed the high res fix before I installed the wide screen magui and I noticed that there are now 2 d3d9 config files in my game folder. Could they be conflicting? Do I even need to install the hi res fix to run the wide screen magui?

fitzcarraldo · 10-25-13, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmar

It's weird. I know it should work but it doesn't. I keep the scaling setting in the nVidia control panel at "no scaling" normally but I tried both full screen and aspect ratio settings and it doesn't work. When I load the game the loading screen is offset. Like the image is centered on the left bottom corner of the screen. Then the main menu is 1360x768 on the left bottom corner. Rest of my screen is black. When I get into the game itself the UI is in the same position as the main menu was and the same size.

I installed the high res fix before I installed the wide screen magui and I noticed that there are now 2 d3d9 config files in my game folder. Could they be conflicting? Do I even need to install the hi res fix to run the wide screen magui?

With the d3d9 fix you can view the in-game images in the resolution you like, but MaGUI F is not designed for those resolutions. With MaGUI 3.4 for Widescreen, you can set the resolution to 1360x768; this is the maximum resolution for MaGUI 3.4 WS. You have EVER problems of scaling in the GUI with resolutions over 1360x768.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo

jonmar · 10-25-13, 06:52 PM

Yeah but every other old game stretches out the low resolution UI images to fill the screen when you play with higher resolutions than what the game was designed for. Weird that SH3 doesn't do it.

sublynx · 10-26-13, 02:07 AM

You can force SH3 to stretch the screen to any size you like if you run it in Windowed mode and then oversize the window with a program like Infinite Screen that breaks the screen boundaries of Windows XP - Windows 7.

badwolf · 10-26-13, 04:29 AM

Well I run desktop in 1920x1080. I haven't changed anything with the SH3 graphic settings or used any graphics mod for widescreen, I don't run in windowed either. I just fire up SH3 and this is what I get.
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9674/lmez.jpg
Was playing around with a mod of mine, that's why the dials out of place.
I have full screen and perhaps a slight bit of stretch, but it's not really noticeable.
When I exit the game, I'm in desktop 1920x1080.
For some reason the screenshot displays at 1024x768. But I have a widescreen monitor and no borders.

jonmar · 10-26-13, 04:39 AM

Desktop being in 1920x1080 doesn't mean SH3 runs in that resolution. The screenshot is 4:3 aspect ratio. Did you resize it because it looks like 640x480?

If you haven't set the game to run in a custom resolution then the game will run in 1024x768 by default. And yes I can run the game at full screen at 1360x768 by stretching the image with the nVidia control panel and the UI will cover the entire screen but then all the 3D stuff in the game will be really blurry and pixelated because of the low resolution. What I'm looking for is running the game in 1920x1080 in full screen so the 3D world is nice and sharp as it matches the native resolution of my screen and having the UI graphics stretch out to fill the screen.

I don't think it's possible though. Every other game, even old ones let you choose your resolution in-game but SH3 originally only runs in 1024x768 with no option to change it unless you use the hi res fix or the Widescreen MaGui. Even with a mod I think the game still thinks it's running in 1024x768 and won't rescale 2D images to fill the screen in higher resolutions. I think the only way to do it is to make a UI that is 1920x1080.

badwolf · 10-26-13, 04:59 AM

Yes, I re-sized it to make it better for showing in the forum. Original size is 1024x768 but that was a screenshot off a widescreen monitor (1920x1080) full view, no borders, running in DOS. So there is a bit of stretch, but it's not too bad. For some reason the screenshot doesn't show it's actual size, but I was just showing that I had full screen on a wide monitor and not in windows.

badwolf · 11-10-13, 01:37 PM

The angle of the bow is measured as if you are stood on the ship taking the measurement.

<-------direction of ship-------------------X---(ship)
.................................................. ......AOB looking from the ship is about
.................................................. ......80 deg and you are on it's left side

.
.
.
.
.................................................. ...(sub)

The angle is from the ship course to your position, about 80 deg in this case.
Then you have the lead angle to add for the solution. Ideally you should be traveling that course so you get a straight shot.
So you will probably have a resolution of about 90 deg with the 10 deg lead angle which is were the ship will be on impact marked with X

10-26-13, 02:07 AM	#4
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	You can force SH3 to stretch the screen to any size you like if you run it in Windowed mode and then oversize the window with a program like Infinite Screen that breaks the screen boundaries of Windows XP - Windows 7. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

11-10-13, 01:37 PM	#8
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	The angle of the bow is measured as if you are stood on the ship taking the measurement. <-------direction of ship-------------------X---(ship) .................................................. ......AOB looking from the ship is about .................................................. ......80 deg and you are on it's left side . . . . .................................................. ...(sub) The angle is from the ship course to your position, about 80 deg in this case. Then you have the lead angle to add for the solution. Ideally you should be traveling that course so you get a straight shot. So you will probably have a resolution of about 90 deg with the 10 deg lead angle which is were the ship will be on impact marked with X Last edited by badwolf; 11-10-13 at 02:02 PM.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Switch to Linear Mode Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

10-25-13, 04:54 PM	#1
jonmar Bosun Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 61 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	It's weird. I know it should work but it doesn't. I keep the scaling setting in the nVidia control panel at "no scaling" normally but I tried both full screen and aspect ratio settings and it doesn't work. When I load the game the loading screen is offset. Like the image is centered on the left bottom corner of the screen. Then the main menu is 1360x768 on the left bottom corner. Rest of my screen is black. When I get into the game itself the UI is in the same position as the main menu was and the same size. I installed the high res fix before I installed the wide screen magui and I noticed that there are now 2 d3d9 config files in my game folder. Could they be conflicting? Do I even need to install the hi res fix to run the wide screen magui?

10-25-13, 06:52 PM	#3
jonmar Bosun Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 61 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Yeah but every other old game stretches out the low resolution UI images to fill the screen when you play with higher resolutions than what the game was designed for. Weird that SH3 doesn't do it.

10-26-13, 04:29 AM	#5
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Well I run desktop in 1920x1080. I haven't changed anything with the SH3 graphic settings or used any graphics mod for widescreen, I don't run in windowed either. I just fire up SH3 and this is what I get. http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/9674/lmez.jpg Was playing around with a mod of mine, that's why the dials out of place. I have full screen and perhaps a slight bit of stretch, but it's not really noticeable. When I exit the game, I'm in desktop 1920x1080. For some reason the screenshot displays at 1024x768. But I have a widescreen monitor and no borders.

10-26-13, 04:39 AM	#6
jonmar Bosun Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 61 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Desktop being in 1920x1080 doesn't mean SH3 runs in that resolution. The screenshot is 4:3 aspect ratio. Did you resize it because it looks like 640x480? If you haven't set the game to run in a custom resolution then the game will run in 1024x768 by default. And yes I can run the game at full screen at 1360x768 by stretching the image with the nVidia control panel and the UI will cover the entire screen but then all the 3D stuff in the game will be really blurry and pixelated because of the low resolution. What I'm looking for is running the game in 1920x1080 in full screen so the 3D world is nice and sharp as it matches the native resolution of my screen and having the UI graphics stretch out to fill the screen. I don't think it's possible though. Every other game, even old ones let you choose your resolution in-game but SH3 originally only runs in 1024x768 with no option to change it unless you use the hi res fix or the Widescreen MaGui. Even with a mod I think the game still thinks it's running in 1024x768 and won't rescale 2D images to fill the screen in higher resolutions. I think the only way to do it is to make a UI that is 1920x1080.

10-26-13, 04:59 AM	#7
badwolf XO Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 427 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Yes, I re-sized it to make it better for showing in the forum. Original size is 1024x768 but that was a screenshot off a widescreen monitor (1920x1080) full view, no borders, running in DOS. So there is a bit of stretch, but it's not too bad. For some reason the screenshot doesn't show it's actual size, but I was just showing that I had full screen on a wide monitor and not in windows.