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Old 10-16-13, 11:42 PM   #1
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I like the one where Obama tries to assimilate Republican politicians into a meaningful dialogue. Oh wait that was CSPAN I was watching.
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Old 10-17-13, 07:06 AM   #2
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Undiscovered Country by far, followed by First Contact.
Nemesis is interesting, but a bit "hollywoodesque".

I find that what sets UC apart is the far more serious plot, where Sci-Fi is merely the background environment.
I would think it's quite obvious the "mining incident" which weakens the Klingon Empire and precipitates the beginning of the end is a clear reference to Chernobyl and the former USSR.
Christopher Plummer plays a riveting General Chang, especially in the dinner scene: "There's no need to mince words, Captain. In space, all warriors are cold warriors."
Trivia: General Chang's eyepatch has three bolts that go into the skull. They all have the Klingon insignia engraved on them.
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Old 10-17-13, 08:30 AM   #3
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Undiscovered Country by far, followed by First Contact.
Nemesis is interesting, but a bit "hollywoodesque".

I find that what sets UC apart is the far more serious plot, where Sci-Fi is merely the background environment.
I would think it's quite obvious the "mining incident" which weakens the Klingon Empire and precipitates the beginning of the end is a clear reference to Chernobyl and the former USSR.
Christopher Plummer plays a riveting General Chang, especially in the dinner scene: "There's no need to mince words, Captain. In space, all warriors are cold warriors."
Trivia: General Chang's eyepatch has three bolts that go into the skull. They all have the Klingon insignia engraved on them.

Yes, I really enjoyed that aspect of The Undiscovered Country, the wall coming down in space.The dinner scene was classic, especially when Gorkon said "We need breathing room" Kirk replies "Earth, Hitler, 1938" still makes me chuckle every time. Chekov uttering "Guess who's coming to dinner?" never gets old either nor does Chang reciting Shakespeare as he attacks lol.
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Old 10-17-13, 08:42 AM   #4
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Undiscovered country by far.

The others were just more or less good popcorn flicks for me.
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Have several favorites: ST II, ST IV, ST: TMP, First contact, ST:VI. Of the series, TOS, TNG, voyager (beginning of season 3). DS9 I only saw a few episodes of the dominion war story arc.
Enterprise should have had a different approach, season 3 is good but should had been a story for a season 4 or five, stand alone. The 4th is quite for for Trek cannon, as a few episodes of 1 and 2.

What new reboot? Do know any. At least we have this:
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I wish they'd make a full movie, even of direct to DVD, in Enterprise times how the Federation was formed. Or maybe a 5 part miniseries.
The most important political entity in the series and there's hardly anything about it
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I wish they'd make a full movie, even of direct to DVD, in Enterprise times how the Federation was formed. Or maybe a 5 part miniseries.
The most important political entity in the series and there's hardly anything about it

I thought that in Star Trek: Enterprise You followed the crew and the human towards the creation of the Federation


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Old 10-17-13, 09:07 AM   #8
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I'll just repeat what I said in the last 'Favorite Star Trek' thread:

My favorite Star Trek movie is still Galaxy Quest.
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Wrath of Khan and it's not even close.
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Yes, I really enjoyed that aspect of The Undiscovered Country, the wall coming down in space.The dinner scene was classic, especially when Gorkon said "We need breathing room" Kirk replies "Earth, Hitler, 1938" still makes me chuckle every time. Chekov uttering "Guess who's coming to dinner?" never gets old either nor does Chang reciting Shakespeare as he attacks lol.
Gorkon - quote: "Gorkon's name was devised by Denny Martin Flinn. It was crafted as a blending of the surnames of Mikhail Gorbachev and Abraham Lincoln." http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gorkon.

BTW, "We need breathing room." was Chang's (the war monger).

Gorkon was played by David Warner, who also played the main Cardassian vilain Gul Madred in TNG episodes "Chain of command" 1&2, and a few other characters. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/David_Warner

Regarding ST Enterprise (because it was brought up), I quite liked it. Ordered the complete series from Amazon (before signing up to Subsim).
It was cut short because it wasn't getting the ratings they expected, which accounts for the hasty wrap-up, quite noticeable in the last episode. It lacks all the intrigue and resistance that always comes with the birth of any federation. This in itself would provide plenty of potentially interesting episodes. Too bad the world now revolves around dehumanized corporate quotas.
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Regarding ST Enterprise (because it was brought up), I quite liked it. Ordered the complete series from Amazon (before signing up to Subsim).
It was cut short because it wasn't getting the ratings they expected, which accounts for the hasty wrap-up, quite noticeable in the last episode. It lacks all the intrigue and resistance that always comes with the birth of any federation. This in itself would provide plenty of potentially interesting episodes. Too bad the world now revolves around dehumanized corporate quotas.
Yes, but they did fail in the large concept of the series being a prequel one. Time cold-war? Why? What did it have to do with the latter forms of ST universe? They could had the romulans being the shadow players and lead the series to the romulan-earth war.
They trash several continuity subjects, even the technology in ENT some time was more advance that the one portrait in Voyager.
Only season 4 did bring what was suppose to be "the prequel series" and not all the episodes were good at it.
The first 2 seasons had good episodes in that matter, I liked the all Vulcan-Andorian aproach, even if the Vulcans didn't act like they should. Season 3 should had been a season placed in the middle of a 6 or more seasons show, like the episodes that are "what if" and then in the end every thing is back to normal. And again with that season, Nazis from outer space... Because even if aliens would had show up in Germany in the WW2 years and help them conquer the word, after more than a 2 centuries after, things would be the same like in 1945.
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Star Trek The Wrath of Khan,The Undiscovered Country & TNG First Contact

As for the "alternate reality" ones, every copy of those films must be burnt and erased from history and never spoken about ever again.
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Star Trek The Wrath of Khan,The Undiscovered Country & TNG First Contact

As for the "alternate reality" ones, every copy of those films must be burnt and erased from history and never spoken about ever again.

I just wish they had stayed away from the alternate reality/time travel crap.Could have made them decent movies without. The cameo for Nimoy could have been accomplished in a reflect or dream sequence etc. Destroying Vulcan home planet etc Nero did not even look like a Romulan really. The guy they had playing Khan. Overall, I like the two Abram's movies but can be too much. One big problem I have is how kirk went from cadet to captain suddenly LOL Killing off Pike was stupid as well.

I hope TNG gets another movie, with a proper budget and script and can make a real trek movie before they all get too old. They could make one to be their swan song, as The Undiscovered Country was for the original series.
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It's almost time for my own annual Star Trek Marathon

I start with watching the 10 movies and then I continue to the series

Enterprise(it is the newest of them all, however the timeframe is before James T kirk and his crew)
TOS
Don't know if I should get TAS
TNG
Have to get DS9
VOY
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Gorkon - quote: "Gorkon's name was devised by Denny Martin Flinn. It was crafted as a blending of the surnames of Mikhail Gorbachev and Abraham Lincoln." http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Gorkon.

BTW, "We need breathing room." was Chang's (the war monger).

Gorkon was played by David Warner, who also played the main Cardassian vilain Gul Madred in TNG episodes "Chain of command" 1&2, and a few other characters. http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/David_Warner

Regarding ST Enterprise (because it was brought up), I quite liked it. Ordered the complete series from Amazon (before signing up to Subsim).
It was cut short because it wasn't getting the ratings they expected, which accounts for the hasty wrap-up, quite noticeable in the last episode. It lacks all the intrigue and resistance that always comes with the birth of any federation. This in itself would provide plenty of potentially interesting episodes. Too bad the world now revolves around dehumanized corporate quotas.

Oops, how I typed Gorkon instead of Change, not sure.Thanks for the correction Kirk's response was classic though, and Spock's expression lol.
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