Luftwaffe

[the dark knight]

Originally Posted by aj906

Actually, this is not quite true. Elements of the Küstenflieger, while poor in quality and numbers, remained under Kriegsmarine control well into the war. While individual Staffeln were handed over to Luftwaffe control throughout the war in the time frame this thread deals with, most units were still subordinate to ObdM. True, they were transferred to Luftwaffe control but only in a piecemeal fashion. There is a new book that deals with these units called - yep, you guessed it - Küstenflieger.

As for Luftwaffe encounters, I play with the option to have updates turned on so when I see a lone ship in the vicinity I assume that this is a Luftwaffe report. However - I turn this option off from 1943 onwards as the chance of getting useful info from that source is rather dubious. Also, any report beyond the western approaches I discard because no aircraft could that far out into the Atlantic, right? That is my sum total of Luftwaffe experience!

The only aircraft I know of that might is the Condor. It could fly Berlin to New York non stop. But I do not know how far west they flew as convoy spotters before having to fly back home.

[Marcello]

There are others possible sources though, such as the submarine own direction finding equipment. The loop antenna on the conning tower was there precisely for this reason.

[SnipersHunter]

How can you call in planes with gwx?

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by SnipersHunter

How can you call in planes with gwx?

You need to be within viewing distance of the target when you make your report....the game engine will then roll an imaginary dice taking into account the proximity and aircraft type at the nearest airfield and decide whether any assistance is given.

[SnipersHunter]

Okay i wikl try this

[Jimbuna]

Another possible condition IIRC is for there to be at least three or more targets in sight.

[jreid666]

Hey folks,

Glad my pic caused some debate . Learned a few things i didn't know about the Luftwaffe and kreigsmarine. The beauty of being on the best board on the net.

[fildaskirk]

First off, let me say Ahoy to all ya skippers, this is my first post in there

Now then, as I've just found, be extremely cautious when you see Luftwaffe, nevermind that you are on the same team.
Just sailing between Jutland peninsula and Norway, when I spotted Norweigean Small Merchant. Since the weather was good, I went flank with deck gun manned. Just as I was broadside with the merchant, some 20m close (minding their crisscrossing of course) I got an aircraft sighted. Since it was late Sept 1940, I was curious and it turned out to be two FW200s. Ok, no more attention on them. WRONG. They attacked the merchant without care that I was alongside it. Got a direct hit on my conning tower and went under in less than a minute.
At least it was a start of patrol, which is autosaved. Hope they at least got court-martialed.

[aj906]

Originally Posted by the dark knight

The only aircraft I know of that might is the Condor. It could fly Berlin to New York non stop. But I do not know how far west they flew as convoy spotters before having to fly back home.

44 degrees West. But that relied upon the aircraft taking off from Bordeaux and flying out over the Bay of Biscay and then north up to Trondheim. That was a single flight that was then returned a few days later. It was also something that really only happened in 1940/41.

As for Berlin - New York, really?! That is a long way, I never knew the aircraft could do that? That is fantastic!!! Might just get me to reassess my assumptions about contacts in the mid Atlantic a little bit

[Marcello]

Originally Posted by aj906

As for Berlin - New York, really?! That is a long way, I never knew the aircraft could do that? That is fantastic!!! Might just get me to reassess my assumptions about contacts in the mid Atlantic a little bit

Not to cool your enthusiasm but that was a one way trip. Assuming a relistic combat load, an useful amount of time spent on station (who would run an air search by flying to the max range and then heading immediately back?), a crew that maybe was not the best of the best etc etc. performance would probably be less impressive.