Passenger-landing plane's pilot dies

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

when i was instructing regularly back in the day, i used to offer a course to spouses, it was about 10 hours of flight time and concentrated mostly on aspects related to Climb, descent, turns, landing and GPS navigation if applicable. The passing criteria was basically that us, and the airplane had to survive the landing.

I think that is a great idea. Even if the "insta-pilot" never has to use any of those skills (and that's the idea), they will have an appreciation of what the pilot (their spouse) is dealing with.

In the military flying club I got my learnin at, there was a similar program for pilots and ATC. Pilots would be invited to observe ATC and ATC people would be invited to ride along. It gives people on both sides an appreciation on what the other does. It was eye-opening.

Having an appreciation of what other people you interact with is a good way of understanding their viewpoints.

And best of all, after walking that mile, you get to keep their shoes!

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Platapus

And best of all, after walking that mile, you get to keep their shoes!

It makes you much better at your own job as well

[Wolferz]

As long as this guy doesn't need air, I'll fly co-pilot.



Roger Roger.

Huh?

Billy, have you ever seen a grown man naked?

[Herr-Berbunch]

And I remember why he's smiling!

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Platapus

In the military flying club I got my learnin at, there was a similar program for pilots and ATC. Pilots would be invited to observe ATC and ATC people would be invited to ride along. It gives people on both sides an appreciation on what the other does. It was eye-opening.

This should be encouraged as much as possible.

I like to see pilots visiting us for familiarisation sessions, and I know it really helps me to ride up front and see things from the other side whenever I fly. This was last week in Amsterdam, got to ride in a SAS MD82 before they retire them all!



Any sort of visit is an eye-opener.
Pilots tend to be amazed at the amount of traffic in the sector, and controllers are shocked by the endless checklists and cross-checking that goes on. It's easy for pilots to think they are the only ones in the sky (at least until the Approach crowd gets their hand in!), and it's just as easy for controllers to think the pilots do nothing but wait for the Voice of God to give them instructions. We forget they have other things to do, and they forget we have other aircraft to take care of. A bit of experience across the frequency helps everyone get along

[Herr-Berbunch]

RAF SAR footage of the landing - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24534013

[Jimbuna]

Not too shoddy at all...until he was down and obviously didn't know the rudder controls for steering.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not too shoddy at all...until he was down and obviously didn't know the rudder controls for steering.

And brakes!

I'd like to know which bits fell off.

Edit - interview with passenger - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24467599

He couldn't reach the pedals - fair enough.

[Jimbuna]

My backside sucking on the seat would have generated enough gravitational pull to bring the crate to a screeching halt

[Herr-Berbunch]

[Herr-Berbunch]

You see this bit on the right hand side - - well if you click that for each post it combines them all into one nice and neat reply.

And then it would only make you one closer to Jim's postcount not three.

[soopaman2]

All jokes aside, landing is the hardest part of flying.

I think old boy woulda had some trouble if this was a passenger jetliner, and not a light plane, as the flying dynamics are simpler, and the minimum speeds, alot less.

Good for him, and the crew that talked him down, not an easy task at all.