One Nation "Under God"

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My way? When was the last time in the most recent history that anyone was hauled off for not reciting the pledge?

Then, again, we should have no problem in removing this final stain of the McCarthy era, right?

Remember the good old days were not so good. Have they gotten better?

For a lot of people, yes I think they most certainly have. In fact, I don't think that an honest argument could be made that they haven't for the people. Minorities can eat and sit where they like, homosexuals are not rounded up and arrested, men and women are not put on trial for not being American enough, women are paid equally for equal work. I should remind you that Leave it to Beaver was not a documentary series.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Then, again, we should have no problem in removing this final stain of the McCarthy era, right?



For a lot of people, yes I think they most certainly have. In fact, I don't think that an honest argument could be made that they haven't for the people. Minorities can eat and sit where they like, homosexuals are not rounded up and arrested, men and women are not put on trial for not being American enough, women are paid equally for equal work. I should remind you that Leave it to Beaver was not a documentary series.

There should be no problem removing it. I have no issue with that. Just the issue of drumming it up year after year. But I think I'm more so tired of hearing how someone is offended.

You look at the good old days in a different way then myself. No doubt the individual freedoms of all walks of life are better off. (women claim there is not equal pay but that is another thread). When I refer to the good old days I speak of summertime lemonade and rope swings over the pond. Lynching blacks is not what I speak of when referring to the good old days.

I don't need be reminded Leave it Beaver was not a documentary series. The comment was not necessary nor pertinent to the conversation.

[Ducimus]

Just sayin'. What great shape our country must be in when we have time to debate a decades old pledge, that a good portion of the nation has probably ceased to recite anyway. In this day and age being a constitutionalist is bad, and puts you on a DHS watch list, so discussing the pledge is futile after a certain point anyway.

[Armistead]

Archie Bunker

"God Bless America"

You gotta love Archie

[Oberon]

Could elect Glenn Beck and have "One nation under Gold"

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Could elect Glenn Beck

Please no....