Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds'

[eddie]

Markus, I don't want it to go that far, but the idea that Syria could attack Turkey and Israel without those 2 countries fighting back is ignorant. The Syrian army is in no shape to fight them both. Iran is a lot of talk I think, they are in no shape to fight a war so far away from Iran itself. Hezbollah could be a problem for a while, but without air support, Israel would win in the end.

But as I said, I don't want to see any of this happen. Its just my opinion, means about as much as everyone elses for that matter. None of us really knows how things are going to go over there, just have to wait and see.

[mapuc]

Originally Posted by eddie

Markus, I don't want it to go that far, but the idea that Syria could attack Turkey and Israel without those 2 countries fighting back is ignorant. The Syrian army is in no shape to fight them both. Iran is a lot of talk I think, they are in no shape to fight a war so far away from Iran itself. Hezbollah could be a problem for a while, but without air support, Israel would win in the end.

But as I said, I don't want to see any of this happen. Its just my opinion, means about as much as everyone elses for that matter. None of us really knows how things are going to go over there, just have to wait and see.

Even I could be wrong. What Syria hopes going to happen when Israel returns fire is that all the other Muslim country will join them and attack Israel.

Most likely scenario:

Some fraction i Syria that support Assad makes some attacks against some area in Israel. The same goes for those fractions in Lebanon

Very unlikely scenario
Assad gives the order to his general...

And you are right, we can only wait and see. I too hope nothing bad is going to happen

Markus

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Sammi79

OK some of the papers have it now, Sky.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news...ectid=11119144

http://www.canada.com/news/Sweden+re...607/story.html

Hope you Swedes get happy with them. I know you won't.

Accepting refugees for some time and over a war, is one thing. Keeping them forever and making them your citizens, is a very different thing. And its not as if you do not already have tremendous problems in Sweden with your peaceful ethnic minority that enriches multiculturalism so much.

The netto effect on your population probably is zero, since Jews have started a big exodus from Sweden. Hope the newcomers compensate for the brain drain and good will drain and tolerance drain.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Most likely scenario:

Some fraction i Syria that support Assad makes some attacks against some area in Israel. The same goes for those fractions in Lebanon



Markus

I agree Markus, I hope not but no one controls all the different factions in Syria or Lebanon.

[Wolferz]

Ipso Facto

Have a pudding pop.

[u crank]

Originally Posted by eddie

I agree Markus, I hope not but no one controls all the different factions in Syria or Lebanon.

Some of these factions are considered 'terrorist organizations'. Hezbollah and The Al-Nusra Front, who have strong ties to Al-Qaeda, for example. Funny thing is they are on opposite sides.

Oh....that's a shame.

[Wolferz]

It appears that Obama wants to strike people who are only accused of using chemical weapons.

from a recent MSN article on the subject:
Before his scheduled departure(for the G-20 summit) Tuesday night, Obama urged lawmakers meeting with him at the White House to support his plan to punish Syria for allegedly using chemical weapons to attack its own people.

And they gave this chump a Nobel Peace prize?!?!
I think it should be rescinded.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

It appears that Obama wants to strike people who are only accused of using chemical weapons.

Good thing we have all these smart weapons that will only kill people accused of using chemical weapons. An accusation is good enough for targeting purposes evidently.

[Tchocky]

French and US have released declassified intelligence detailing the accusation.

I'm not saying they're correct - but the picture of blind unsupported accusations isn't correct either.

[Skybird]

The likelihood always was in favor of the chemicals being used by Assad's side, the question was about evidence to prove it (just assuming it is a bit thin for going to a time-limited war), and the question was how it came to it, since, the attack obviously made no sense and was counterproductive for Assad, which gave argument for assuming it could have been the rebels as well - which is another reason why the regime's responsibility must not be assumed, but proven.

However, we can have no interest in helping the rebels' side. If there would be no AQ, djihadists, Iranians and Hezbollah, one maybe would debate the option (and even then I am likely refusing to participate in any strike). But considering the nature and internal battles of the factions forming the rebels' "alliance", as well the as West-hostile stance of the Syrian population, evidence for this or that is unimportant, since it does not change the matter of main concern.

Send the bill for any strike now to the Saudis.

[eddie]

So much for the great air defense system in Syria! What was Syria (or Iran)trying to send to Hezbollah? That's the only reason Israel will strike inside Syria.

"The blasts rocked a large military area in the suburbs of Syria's capital, prompting terrified residents nearby to run for cover.
"Everything kept exploding over and over again," said Anna Deeb, whose family lives just over a mile away. "We could hear gunshots, we could hear people screaming. ... We didn't know what to do, and there was a problem with us breathing because the smoke was too much."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/05/world/...ynamicSearchAd

[Tchocky]

Not sure if you meant to post that one. That link is from early May.

[Tchocky]

Well at least they're all taking it seriously

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...c-c0b0d9d4fe0a

Senator John McCain plays poker on his IPhone during a U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations hearing where Secretary of State JohnKerry, Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey testify concerning the use of force in Syria

[August]

Originally Posted by Oberon

True, but you spray that on the grass, not on your neighbour.

Well actually depending on the wind conditions at the time your neighbor just might be in your weed killer dispersal zone too.

The point is however that like your weed killer, Agent Orange was deployed to destroy plants, not to injure or kill people. Of course it did turn out to be quite deadly but not immediately enough to be remotely useful as a weapon.

For example it took AO 31 years to kill my father with liver cancer after his exposure to it in 1967 but it didn't stop him from carrying out his military duties or completing his tour over there. It that makes it a weapon it is a damned inefficient one.

[eddie]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Not sure if you meant to post that one. That link is from early May.

Mean't to post a different day,lol